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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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here's gene steinberg

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you have happy jean and not so grumpy

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chris

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and in case you're wondering and you're

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looking over at the gcn site for the

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power cast you see a brand new logo

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so chris is playing a guitar but he

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doesn't play guitar he plays keyboard

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but this way he can stand up and i look

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pregnant

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well all right the version

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the larger version that we have in our

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forums shows him weighing a bit more

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than he should and i've asked the artist

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red pill junkie to give him a diet

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the version gcn

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imagine if we could do that you know if

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someone's really overweight and chris

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yeah just take an eraser

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yeah take an eraser and knock off 50

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pounds i have to talk to my son grayson

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he's put on a few pounds

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in the last few years and he now weighs

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about the same i do

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which is not so bad but he's about seven

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or eight inches smaller than i am so i'm

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not happy about that

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but seriously speaking

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i've asked red pill junkie to give

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to the illustration of chris that's in

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our forums now the one that you see

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at gcn's site is just a square so you

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don't see that

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so at least that's hidden from their

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man that's stretching it past the

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so therefore i've become grand master

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well you know bash is also a type of

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you see how confusing this is nobody

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cares i should tell you though we got

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the live feed on sunday mornings

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and it covers lachlan nevada

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okay hey three cities one station

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three states i like it

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well i should tell you by the way that

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the power cast in your city

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which helps us sell the show to

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tell us the name of the station the

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follow up he's the affiliate guy at gcn

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in fact he's a senior affiliate guy but

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department at gcn so it requires

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that we do the work that you do the work

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to get those stations so that's how we

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excerpts from a book called and your dog

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sings chopin

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chris how did you and ray stanford come

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was socorro saucer in a pentagon pantry

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habit of coming up with strange book

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sing chopin and he had told a story

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rey's words uh it was a series of

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hundreds of hours of interviews that i

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he's back on the map so to speak and you

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a chance to to hear verbatim stories uh

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from ray's past he has quite an

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historic past he pretty much knew

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well you know what we could do here then

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based on their votes or something we'll

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put those up how's that but you have to

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be a member of the powercast plus at

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plus.powercast.com once again that's

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you can take advantage of the after the

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advantage of the book excerpt we're also

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planning a section on classic episodes

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now understand with regard to ray

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i will see the chapters as chris submits

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them not before i've not read this book

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take a big wad of cash and say ray come

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ray thinks uh you know once he's back on

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experiment and my dog sings chopin

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breakaway civilizations we're having

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so chris and i are kind of going to be

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flies in the wall although we do have

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we're going to sit back let these two

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each other says i have no idea what's

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dr joseph farrell walter bosley with

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we welcome to the powercast this week dr

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joseph farrell

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who hasn't been on for a couple of years

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we're happy to have you back joseph

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thanks for having me we also have walter

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bosley who never leaves this place when

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he's not on the air he's in the forums

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right

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yeah i guess yeah

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yeah we kind of sucked you in that's how

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it goes

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but we had actually a request from our

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listeners

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to have a breakaway civilization

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roundtable they mentioned three people

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and i felt that was just too many for a

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show like this because nobody gets a

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chance to talk

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the third person

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was richard dolan by the way

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but i think you guys were talking about

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breakaway civilizations before you got

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onto it right

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well in a way yes but i think it was

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richard dolan that really

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cemented the idea in his uh ufos in the

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national security state because he

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pointed out a very i think important

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point

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and that was that if you if you create a

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top secret ufo study group

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and give it lots of money over time

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with its development of of advanced

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technologies and so on there arises the

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possibility since it's got its own kind

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of separate

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infrastructure that it would actually

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kind of break away from from the host

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civilization it would get so advanced

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and

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with that advancement it would kind of

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create its own decision-making culture

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and everything else

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that that the possibility really arises

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i think that uh dolan

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is basically the one that that kind of

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cemented the idea i think other people

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were were kind of tracking the breakaway

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civilization without realizing it and he

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really kind of articulated it first

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and also came up with the term correct

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me if i'm wrong i think the term

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the term itself really does i think cap

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encapsulate

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this whole subject area and um i think

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people have been actually bannering this

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subject about for quite a while he he

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created a tent for all this to live in

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exactly

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joseph how did you first

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become interested in this possibility

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well it began with my uh

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with my ancient research and and the

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idea that i had that after you know if

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we if we fought an ancient cosmic war in

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this system and blew ourselves to

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smithereens

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you'd basically have some sort of elite

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trying to carry on and

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in effect that becomes a breakaway

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civilization because everybody else is

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you know living in their caves and

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hunting and gathering while these elites

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are trying to jumpstart civilization

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again so the idea originated there

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but it really kind of got a kickstart

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and i think walter

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with his research into the airship

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mysteries and

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so on kind of came to the same

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conclusion that when you're when you

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turn to the nazi era and even before

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you're dealing with a group of people

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that are are literally trying to do this

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they're trying to create some advanced

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technologies and

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pull ahead of the rest of human

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civilization the nazis certainly

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created the infrastructure during world

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war ii with all the vast underground

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factories and research facilities that

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they built

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so you have kind of the idea of a

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breakaway civilization right there and

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certainly

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with the ss

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with the institution of things like the

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ana arabids and the commoner stop which

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was their top secret research think tank

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so to speak

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you certainly have the idea that this is

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something very different from from the

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public aspect of the third rank that you

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see so it kind of gets a jump start

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during world war ii i think

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i think the bottom line here is that

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this breakaway civilization kind of

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emerges in phases

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i think there's a pre-world war one

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phase as walter's shown i think there's

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a nazi phase and then i think there's a

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an american cold war phase to it so are

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we talking of one specific civilization

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more than one or is it a situation where

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all these disparate groups got together

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for various reasons well in my opinion i

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think it kind of starts out as more than

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one

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i i think really by now what you what

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you may have is is kind of a

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an international organization with

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various factions within it but i think

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it starts out certainly as as more than

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one uh you've got the nazis you've

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certainly got the american

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establishment during world war ii that

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basically creates its own infrastructure

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that carries on after the cold war so i

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think it starts out that way but i think

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by now the possibility

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definitely exists that this thing may

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have

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international and global in its scope

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now when we hear these terms bandied

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about like international bankers which i

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assume is the banksters as some people

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call them and the illuminati are they in

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any way related to this or just various

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people who want to be in control in this

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civilization well in my opinion yes i

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think they are related i think there's a

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definite

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uh secret society aspect to this that

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goes back at least as far as adam dyson

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and the bavarian illuminati because of

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course they're involved in all sorts of

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chicanery political agendas and so on in

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europe

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as far as the banksters go the biggest

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thing here i think gene is that if you

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examine this idea of a breakaway

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civilization

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one aspect that didn't get much play

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was the idea that if you're going to

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create something like this if you're

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going to create a

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transgenerational

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institution basically that that's going

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to be examining

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advanced technology researching and

537
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trying to develop it you've got to have

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the financing for it

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and that means quite literally you know

540
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as i put it in in the uh san mateo

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conference you're dealing with the idea

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that

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you're going to have to have financing

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that's going to dwarf that of of the

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manhattan project and it's got to be

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completely secret in other words you

547
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can't just go out and tax everybody to

548
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death in order to create the billions

549
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and trillions of dollars you're going to

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need to to develop this stuff

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so you've got to have a completely

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hidden system of finance and i think

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this is really where

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you get the idea that that this thing is

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an international

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effort with various factions within it

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because in my thinking

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this required the american national

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security establishment to recover a lot

560
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of that axis loot and keep it totally

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off the books

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to recover all of that stuff you're

563
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,559
gonna have to have the help of your

564
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,240
former enemies

565
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,080
so i think they crawl in bed and there's

566
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,000
certainly ample evidence you know from

567
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,159
the end of world war ii

568
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:11,919
that they crawl in bed with a lot of

569
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,720
these surviving axis elites and and they

570
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,400
strike a deal quite literally you know

571
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,480
give us access to this finance and so on

572
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,760
and so forth

573
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:21,520
i i think this is literally what

574
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,880
happened and

575
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:24,720
the banksters in order to make such a

576
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:26,320
system work you're going to have to have

577
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:28,960
the participation of the major

578
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,200
prime banks of of the western financial

579
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:33,840
system jp morgan hong kong shanghai bank

580
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,400
deutsche bank and so on and so forth

581
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:38,400
so yeah i think at some level they're

582
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:40,000
involved i don't think that they're

583
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,360
involved to the extent that they know

584
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,760
the details of what's being developed

585
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:47,760
but they certainly know the aspects of

586
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,799
some of the financial parts of it yeah

587
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,400
one thing that one thing that i'd like

588
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:54,240
to point out is

589
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:55,120
that

590
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i think it should be a famous press

591
00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:00,080
conference now but very few uh americans

592
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:01,280
i think really

593
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:03,039
understand or realize

594
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,400
the press conference that donald

595
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,960
rumsfeld did the day before 9 11 right

596
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:08,640
where he announced that i think four

597
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,159
trillion dollars was not where it was

598
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,559
supposed to be right after a audit of

599
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,919
the department of defense which is one

600
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:15,360
of the first things he did as a

601
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secretary of defense when he got into

602
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office

603
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,120
and the second more alarming figure was

604
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:23,280
that 2.2 trillion dollars is missing

605
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,559
from the department of defense now

606
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:26,720
that's a lot of money so perhaps the

607
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,840
american public has uh financed at least

608
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,919
a portion of this

609
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,120
joseph let me take the break and let's

610
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,039
pick up on the other side

611
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,799
we have dr joseph farrell and we have

612
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,600
walter bosley we're trying to track

613
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,600
the banksters and all that missing

614
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:43,919
defense department money

615
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:46,640
that donald rumsfeld talks about and the

616
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next day we have 9 11.

617
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whoa

618
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go to come with gina and chris you're in

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731
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:33,039
you see chris is changing himself to a

732
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,710
[Laughter]

733
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,360
walter bosley dr joseph farrell dr

734
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,240
farrell you had started an answer

735
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,000
in response to chris's question you want

736
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,320
to pick up on that well yeah uh he he

737
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,559
mentioned secretary rumsfeld prior to 9

738
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,159
11 the day before as a matter of fact

739
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,399
mentioning 2.2 million dollars had gone

740
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,320
missing and then of course 911 occurs

741
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,159
and that story drops right off the radar

742
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,600
screen 2.2 trillion dollars yeah and

743
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,840
there's been stories since then uh if

744
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,840
you recall congresswoman cynthia

745
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,039
mckinney

746
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,520
grilled rumsfeldt and and one of his

747
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:13,600
advisors about you know who's keeping

748
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,039
the books for the pentagon who's

749
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,799
actually got the contracts and of course

750
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,960
neither of them were able to answer

751
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:21,039
congressman grayson from florida also

752
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,919
was

753
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,760
pointing out trillions of dollars of

754
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,840
missing money and i think what happened

755
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,760
there is is they got very close to this

756
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,440
hidden system of finance i think it

757
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,919
definitely exists and

758
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,000
from my point of view gene i think those

759
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:36,799
bearer bond scandals from you know from

760
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,679
2008 and so on are part of this hidden

761
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,679
system because let's look at what what

762
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,039
they are

763
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:45,039
they claim to be gold-backed bearer

764
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,320
bonds

765
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,080
issued by the federal reserve please

766
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,919
note that not the u.s treasury but the

767
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,600
federal reserve directly and that's a

768
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:53,919
very important point because

769
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:56,240
to a certain extent that allows you to

770
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:59,279
to create plausible deniability for one

771
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:00,159
thing

772
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,000
for the other the federal reserve as a

773
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,240
private corporation technically there's

774
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,880
nothing to prevent them from doing that

775
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,799
so these goldback bearer bonds have been

776
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:10,480
out there occasionally you hear a story

777
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:11,600
where they've recovered so many

778
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,039
trillions of dollars well why

779
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,799
gold-backed bearer bonds you know why

780
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,039
would you create such a system i think

781
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,880
the essence here is is that this

782
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,600
represents the transactional currency so

783
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,960
to speak for this hidden system of

784
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,720
finance they actually have to have a

785
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,200
physical medium of exchange

786
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,080
to move and account for all this gold

787
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:32,000
that they recovered under the truman

788
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,720
administration from that point on

789
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:36,640
from all of this axis

790
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,679
booty

791
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,520
so in addition to a hidden system of

792
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,120
finance in other words i'm suggesting to

793
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,120
you that the commodities themselves the

794
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,200
bullion markets especially

795
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,600
do not represent reality they are

796
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,080
dealing with such vast amounts of gold

797
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,919
and bullion particularly in the japanese

798
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,080
case that was recovered by the japanese

799
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,760
during world war ii

800
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:58,000
that's been kept totally off the books

801
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:59,520
so this allows them to manipulate the

802
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,960
commodities markets through these

803
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,120
securities and so on and so forth and

804
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,440
indeed this is what we've seen happen

805
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,440
in the post-9 11 world

806
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:09,360
this whole story has broken wide open

807
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,200
you know they've been accused of fixing

808
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,960
the libor rates they've been accused of

809
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:15,039
fixing the bullion markets and i think

810
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,640
what you're looking at is this hidden

811
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,480
system is coming out

812
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,399
gradually into the open now the thing

813
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,039
that bothers me about rumsfeld

814
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:25,440
is that this guy has been in government

815
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,240
for years he knows how the system works

816
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,279
right he knows the tricks the side steps

817
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:33,039
this is a two-part question number one

818
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,559
being

819
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:36,799
why would he even reveal this why

820
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,600
wouldn't he shut up and number two

821
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,520
any possible

822
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:44,159
connection between 9 11 did it happen

823
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,440
that day

824
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:47,679
because of what rumsfeld said the day

825
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,039
before to basically obscure the story i

826
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,880
personally suspect that there is a

827
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:55,600
financial aspect to 911 in fact i got

828
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:57,919
into that in some depth in my most

829
00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:59,919
recent book that just came out

830
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:02,480
that there is a financial aspect to 911.

831
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,120
there were investigations taking place

832
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,640
by o and i the office of naval

833
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:08,080
intelligence

834
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,039
into

835
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,360
a lot of missing money and illegal

836
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,039
securities we're talking

837
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:15,039
in the tune of hundreds of billions of

838
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:16,240
dollars

839
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:20,000
that were set to clear on 9 11 beginning

840
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,760
on 9 11 and the you know through

841
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the following week and what happened is

842
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that during 9 11 the sec securities and

843
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:29,520
exchange commission suspended the normal

844
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,880
securities trading and clearing rules

845
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under the normal rules you cannot

846
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substitute securities a set of

847
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securities for another set of securities

848
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,200
destined to clear when they suspended

849
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,120
that rule the securities that were set

850
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to clear which were

851
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:47,600
by every appearance fraudulent were

852
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substituted for other securities that

853
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,840
actually cleared so in other words there

854
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,679
was an activity of the hidden system of

855
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,039
finance that

856
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,600
was going to be revealed had 911 not

857
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,360
occurred the other interesting thing i

858
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:01,360
think that people need to take note of

859
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,039
is that the offices of naval

860
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,360
investigation were part of the pentagon

861
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:08,159
that was struck on 9 11. so in other

862
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,600
words yeah there appears to be to be

863
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,279
some sort of financial crime that

864
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,519
somebody wanted to cover up

865
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:16,159
now rumsfeld what i think is interesting

866
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,000
about him and his statement gene is that

867
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,320
as you say he's been kind of a revolving

868
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,480
door in american politics going all the

869
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,799
way back to the reagan era when he came

870
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:29,120
out and revealed that i think what he

871
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,000
did

872
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,039
was he revealed something that even he

873
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,120
did not realize the full depth of what

874
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,720
he was saying in other words he's not a

875
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,799
member of the inner circle of this

876
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,559
breakaway group

877
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,480
he reveals something that the breakaway

878
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:44,159
group doesn't want revealed of course

879
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,919
911 very conveniently buries the story

880
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,159
but of course later on he's he's grilled

881
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,760
in front of congress for a lot of these

882
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:53,440
missing trillions and of course those

883
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,000
investigations get nowhere in fact

884
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,159
congresswoman mckinney from georgia you

885
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,320
know they mounted a huge effort to to

886
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,799
defeat her which they actually did

887
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,640
as far as i know she kind of went into

888
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,640
hiding i think she's in indonesia or

889
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,559
someplace like that because you know she

890
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,039
kept digging and literally left the

891
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,200
country which kind of conveys the idea

892
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:15,120
that you know she may be in

893
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,799
fear of her life or or thinking that

894
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:18,240
she's under some sort of threat or

895
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,960
danger i think rumsfeld's speech there

896
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,039
his his press conference was really kind

897
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,600
of an inadvertent thing that that he was

898
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:27,760
disclosing something that somebody else

899
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:29,919
didn't want disclosed i don't think he's

900
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:31,840
part of that deep inner circle in other

901
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,919
words plus isn't there billions of

902
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,240
dollars in missing bullying from the

903
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,640
world center as well i mean that unless

904
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,960
we forget that plus i think the 14th

905
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,039
floor where the fire

906
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,039
evidently started on

907
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:47,519
911 and world trade center number seven

908
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,200
uh wasn't that also a sec investigation

909
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:53,760
yes files in the office of investigation

910
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,559
there not to mention the largest cia

911
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,640
operation uh operational headquarters

912
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,960
outside of langley yes exactly that's

913
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,159
that's true

914
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,000
moreover there's a there's a researcher

915
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,320
into 911 by the name of ep heidner that

916
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,280
i i reference in the book quite a lot

917
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,320
he or she i think it's a he uncovered

918
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,159
the fact that where the planes actually

919
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,320
struck the twin towers were brokerage

920
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,720
houses offices of the brokerage houses

921
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,000
that were cooperating in this

922
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,079
investigation so in other words

923
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,000
if you examine the financial angle of it

924
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,679
it looks like somebody

925
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,599
definitely wanted to curb that

926
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,599
investigation and and create the

927
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,679
conditions that would allow the normal

928
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,240
clearing rules to be suspended so they

929
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,000
could substitute other securities so

930
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,480
yeah there's huge aspects of finance in

931
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,040
911 not to mention our good old friends

932
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:42,639
at deutsche bank you know

933
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,440
doing all of the puts and trades that

934
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,440
they were doing at the last minute or

935
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,760
the put orders on united airlines and oh

936
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,520
yeah i think there are too many

937
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,159
convenient coincidences for this to

938
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,680
have been just simply 19 oh yeah saudis

939
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,440
with box cutters uh

940
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,359
and you do bring that out i think look

941
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:03,599
very loud and clear in your book in fact

942
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,240
you actually add a layer of intrigue

943
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,760
which i'm sure we'll get into at some

944
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,680
point in the show walter

945
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:11,760
yes

946
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,960
i want you to drop in you haven't heard

947
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,480
he's flummoxed

948
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,960
it's you're not on my bailiwick

949
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:20,800
so i'm listening and learning

950
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,760
um

951
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,599
no i uh

952
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,480
as as you know i've recently um

953
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,040
jumped into the uh the the pool of the

954
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:31,440
deutsche bank um stuff

955
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,200
myself um because it did

956
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,520
raise its head in

957
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,800
my

958
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:40,800
you know the the background historical

959
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,920
aspects

960
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:42,960
so

961
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,440
you know i saw particularly around 9 11

962
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:47,119
and since then particularly with the

963
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,000
2008 crash um i saw a resonance with

964
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,160
with what i do with what my so-called

965
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,520
bailiwick actually is and

966
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,000
i i'll tell you it is

967
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:01,920
this stuff we're talking about around 9

968
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:05,119
11 and the deutsche bank stuff that has

969
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,880
actually um

970
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,800
brought my interests

971
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,240
into the present

972
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,240
i mean i'm still i'm still doing

973
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background historical stuff because i

974
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,480
think that aspect of this is fascinating

975
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,440
but nothing has brought my attention to

976
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,560
the present with this stuff like this um

977
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,240
like this bankster stuff this deutsche

978
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bank stuff in particular um you know

979
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particularly when you see the

980
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connections to the various uh

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present-day politicians and people

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running for office it's

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all right now we're doing it now we're

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1103
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1104
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was going to cut that off the recording

1109
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,430
we're

1110
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,839
engaged in breakaway civilizations here

1111
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,200
let me throw out a question that comes

1112
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to mind here

1113
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,920
as we kind of know here bush and company

1114
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,760
were just aching

1115
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,359
to attack iraq

1116
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,160
and use 911 as the excuse

1117
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,880
is that playing into the needs of a

1118
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,200
breakaway civilization or just

1119
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,200
doing what he's doing

1120
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,599
well in my opinion it's playing into the

1121
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:48,240
needs of the breakaway civilization

1122
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,760
because

1123
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,440
as i've tried to document through

1124
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:54,000
several books concerning the nazis there

1125
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:55,520
is a deep

1126
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,119
deep connection between nazism and and

1127
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,760
radical islamic groups and cells

1128
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,599
including wahhabism

1129
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:05,280
that go all the way back to world war ii

1130
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,200
and then of course continue on after the

1131
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,200
war you have you know you have a heavy

1132
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,400
nazi presence in the so-called cia

1133
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,400
operation that that overthrows king

1134
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,560
farouk but you know the boo the booths

1135
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,119
on the ground are are nazi in that

1136
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:21,280
operation otto schwarzenegger

1137
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,079
shocked general wilhelm farmbacher

1138
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,319
johann fondlers from the old devil's

1139
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:27,839
propaganda ministry so you've got all

1140
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,880
these nazis involved with that operation

1141
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,760
so

1142
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,000
i think if if indeed

1143
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,560
there is such a thing as a post-war nazi

1144
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:38,160
international which i've been arguing

1145
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,599
through several books

1146
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,599
it fits their agenda perfectly because

1147
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,960
what what they're doing is they're

1148
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,680
getting the united states embroiled in

1149
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,520
a situation in the middle east that will

1150
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,599
never stabilize and and will suck

1151
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:52,079
american power and drain american power

1152
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,040
and

1153
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,040
you know suck american resources into

1154
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,359
the region which certainly it's done so

1155
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,040
i think 911

1156
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,720
certainly is is the crisis of

1157
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,480
opportunity for the for the bush

1158
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,240
administration which already wants to do

1159
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,560
this anyway as you pointed out to go in

1160
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,119
there and do it and we see the results

1161
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,440
you know it's been one fiasco after

1162
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,200
another and

1163
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:15,599
i i think really it's only going to

1164
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,599
continue at least for the foreseeable

1165
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:19,760
future as far as i can see you know i

1166
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:21,040
don't see

1167
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,920
trump or mrs clinton getting us out of

1168
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,599
there anytime soon

1169
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,720
i think they're going to dig us in

1170
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,880
deeper i saw an interesting interview

1171
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,280
that was re-posted

1172
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,280
on the internet with retired general

1173
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,839
wesley clark who said that he went down

1174
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,599
into the pentagon

1175
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,920
a week or so after 9 11

1176
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:41,680
and was told

1177
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,480
by

1178
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,440
one of the

1179
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:45,440
i guess staffers and the joint chiefs

1180
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,640
staff

1181
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,400
rather who was rather alarmed and said

1182
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:49,920
that the plans had already been made to

1183
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,000
attack iraq yes

1184
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:53,760
and you know i find it very interesting

1185
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,640
that that just a week after 9 11

1186
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,040
that plans had already been formulated

1187
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,800
so that obviously indicates that even

1188
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,480
before the event

1189
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,800
plans are being drawn up to go into iraq

1190
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,880
and of course at the time he didn't he

1191
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,800
didn't mention afghanistan of course

1192
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,319
which is where we went first and then

1193
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,640
later on went into iraq but that does

1194
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:15,359
that does kind of suggest

1195
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,560
premeditated sure even more than that i

1196
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,599
had read some reports that as far back

1197
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,359
as 1999

1198
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,599
w and his cronies

1199
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:27,280
were planning this

1200
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,400
yeah i don't know that wouldn't be a

1201
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:29,920
surprise here here's the thing though

1202
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:32,880
guys you have to qualify this um

1203
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,599
on on one hand uh with what clark said

1204
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,359
and i'm not trying to you know defend

1205
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,200
any position here at all because i agree

1206
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:41,200
with what you just said gene that yeah i

1207
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,319
think you know bush cheney

1208
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,920
administration they wanted to do this

1209
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,400
but as far as plans are concerned

1210
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,280
um there are always plans

1211
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,079
attack plans and invasion plans on every

1212
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:54,240
country you could imagine they exist

1213
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,520
these things are thought out they're

1214
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:57,520
fleshed out they exist they're ready to

1215
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,319
go

1216
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:00,400
and they're ready to be activated so

1217
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:03,200
there is you you and in general clark

1218
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:04,480
here's what's interesting general

1219
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,160
clark's alarm uh interests me in that

1220
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,560
he certainly wesley clark certainly

1221
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,880
knows better than i do the details of

1222
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:14,960
what i just said okay about there being

1223
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:17,920
plans in existence for him to be alarmed

1224
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:20,640
implies to me okay was there some

1225
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,920
version of the next level of activation

1226
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,000
that he discovered or suspected right

1227
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,720
because the plan itself

1228
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,880
but you might be shocked

1229
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,960
what the plans are that are drawn up let

1230
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,480
me let me give you an example from

1231
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,400
history here gene about what walter's

1232
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,599
talking about after world war one

1233
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,319
the

1234
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,599
this strategy analysts and and you know

1235
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,839
financiers in both great britain and the

1236
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,280
united states

1237
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:49,680
looked at each other and saw in each

1238
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,640
other

1239
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,800
who had just been allies in world war

1240
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,520
one helping to defeat the germans

1241
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,920
saw on each other commercial rivals on a

1242
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,400
global scale and as a result both great

1243
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,319
britain and the united states drew up

1244
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,440
war plans for war against each other

1245
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:07,599
you know a global war against each other

1246
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,319
so you know the idea that that plans

1247
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:12,319
exist for invasion of iraq or the middle

1248
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,839
east yeah i'm agreeing i'm in agreement

1249
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,359
with walter they've got plans for

1250
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,359
invading just about anybody

1251
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,880
at any time

1252
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:21,200
and i i think he's correct here that if

1253
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,920
general clark is is raising alarm bells

1254
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:26,240
about it it's because he saw something

1255
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,280
else

1256
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,280
he saw something deeper that the plan

1257
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,760
was connected to

1258
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,839
i was looking at an article from mother

1259
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,359
jones

1260
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,520
that was tracing our

1261
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:39,920
engagement with iraq

1262
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,480
going back even when bush's father was

1263
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:43,920
president

1264
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,400
then they decided to do it fast and even

1265
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,960
then some reports say even that war

1266
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:50,960
was to some level

1267
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:56,950
well yeah that war you know there

1268
00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,920
there's that famous exchange

1269
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:02,400
that april gillespie who is our uh

1270
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:05,359
representative in baghdad at the time

1271
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:07,680
had with saddam hussein's government and

1272
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,160
he queried her very directly you can you

1273
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,079
can find this story

1274
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,319
online just about anywhere

1275
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,160
he queried her very directly what would

1276
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,079
what would be the united states reaction

1277
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,520
if iraq

1278
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,280
seized kuwait and restored it to the

1279
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,800
historical you know that was his

1280
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,119
argument the historical boundaries of

1281
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:27,599
iraqi mesopotamia

1282
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,640
and her response was was well you know

1283
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,720
the american government has no position

1284
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,119
on the internal affairs of arab states

1285
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,720
so in other words she gave the green

1286
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,920
light

1287
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:39,440
for the invasion

1288
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,480
now

1289
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,480
no ambassador

1290
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,640
is going to say something like that

1291
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,720
without first checking

1292
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:48,720
with their government so in other words

1293
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,280
her saying that is an indicator that

1294
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,280
that the green light came from very very

1295
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,359
high up and of course we know the result

1296
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,599
saddam hussein invaded iraq and then we

1297
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,359
get you know the fake stories about

1298
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,359
iraqi soldiers

1299
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,359
uh butchering babies in kuwaiti

1300
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,520
hospitals and all sorts of nonsense you

1301
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,160
know we're ready to go and eject him and

1302
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,839
so yeah i think there's a certain

1303
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:11,359
there's a certain case to be made that

1304
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:13,040
maybe that whole thing was staged as

1305
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,559
well

1306
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:17,359
can you believe any war even the vietnam

1307
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,319
war

1308
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,359
gulf of tonkin was faked right as

1309
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,280
exaggerated over what the event really

1310
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,480
was to bring us into that war

1311
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,559
when nixon got elected partly on

1312
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,720
promises to get out of that war we

1313
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,960
basically cut and run after a couple of

1314
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:35,680
years and now we're friends with vietnam

1315
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:36,640
yeah

1316
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,040
the gulf of tonkin incident i think the

1317
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,040
senator from oregon at the time senator

1318
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:45,920
warren i forget what his name was

1319
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:47,839
senator wayne or senator warren even

1320
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,720
pointed out as early as as 1965 when

1321
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,960
when that incident first occurred that

1322
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,040
there were aspects of it that even on

1323
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,200
the public record indicated that this

1324
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,200
was somehow a staged event and he was

1325
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:01,520
adamantly opposed to any resolution that

1326
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,640
would give

1327
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:04,480
johnson the authority to go in and do

1328
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,920
what he did you know the republicans

1329
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,400
helped him out quite a bit there

1330
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,559
they they had their model of course with

1331
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,720
the uss maine in the spanish-american

1332
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,119
war you know they took that and said hmm

1333
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,599
you know somebody did i think said wow

1334
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,240
it worked in 1898 or seven or whatever

1335
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:22,720
it was what the hell let's uh let's just

1336
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,680
kind of spin it in this modern vietnam

1337
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,440
way exactly

1338
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,800
exactly

1339
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,720
some people actually say that some of

1340
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:32,480
these events some of these tragedies we

1341
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,280
have

1342
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,359
are false flag events and we're going to

1343
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,520
be running out of time in a moment so i

1344
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,440
don't want to ask for a response right

1345
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,680
now but we will have one in our next

1346
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,160
segment we have dr joseph farrell we

1347
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,319
have walter bosley and we're just

1348
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,559
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00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,359
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00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,400
attack of the rockoids has been well

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00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,720
received by critics and readers alike

1375
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,319
it's a thrill-a-minute story you'll

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00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,680
never forget

1377
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,680
a former u s military intelligence

1378
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,079
officer is haunted by intense dreams

1379
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:12,640
about a beautiful woman pleading for his

1380
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:15,040
help after a terrible battle in outer

1381
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,079
space

1382
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,240
but the dreams turn out to be true and

1383
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,240
thrust him into a telepathic love affair

1384
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:22,960
with a woman whose far away planet is

1385
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,839
intent on destroying the earth and now

1386
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,079
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1387
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[Music]

1424
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,150
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1425
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,839
standard of paranormal radio

1426
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:15,119
and now

1427
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,390
about that gene

1428
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,720
that's okay look at that title i said

1429
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,480
wait a minute

1430
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,319
is this just a pretend title you see

1431
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,160
chris has that in his signature when you

1432
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:35,839
get an email from chris

1433
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,079
he puts that in there and i thought he's

1434
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,480
kidding me this is not real it's a real

1435
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,720
book folks it's a real book but it's a

1436
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,720
working title

1437
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:46,720
oh you got to fit it in somehow in the

1438
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:52,390
well he had a dog that sang chopin so

1439
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:54,079
what can i say you know every time

1440
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,680
chopin had come on they'd howl along

1441
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:57,440
with it so

1442
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:01,910
if you believe that one i'll tell you

1443
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,460
another one

1444
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,800
[Laughter]

1445
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,680
well seriously uh we also have quite a

1446
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,440
number of questions here too for you

1447
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:11,200
joseph uh from

1448
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,760
very intrigued uh listeners who are

1449
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:15,520
we've had quite a number of people that

1450
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:16,559
have asked when you were going to be on

1451
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,839
the show next and we felt this was a

1452
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,440
really good opportunity with the release

1453
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:21,200
of your latest book and

1454
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,800
and so we're going to be getting to some

1455
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:24,400
of those questions later on the show as

1456
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:25,359
well

1457
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:26,720
false flag

1458
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,200
and that we presume is an event that

1459
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:31,359
really didn't happen and i guess gulf of

1460
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:34,000
tonkin is one of them obviously the 911

1461
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:36,640
stuff did happen but joseph over the

1462
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,200
years have there been other significant

1463
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,720
false flags

1464
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,200
oh wow where do you start where do you

1465
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,079
start yeah i i strongly suspect that

1466
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,160
there's an aspect of false flag to all

1467
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,680
these shootings that have been going on

1468
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,760
recently including orlando you know

1469
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:54,480
sandy hook boston marathon

1470
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:57,119
the the um san bernardino shootings

1471
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:58,880
there there's aspects of all of these

1472
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:01,680
stories that to my first reading of the

1473
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:04,240
narrative that that comes out of them

1474
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,920
there's all sorts of freight edges

1475
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:07,440
there's all sorts of leads that don't

1476
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,200
appear to be followed up and so on and

1477
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,119
so forth so i think that we're looking

1478
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,960
at the possibility of domestic false

1479
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,119
flags i'm glad you put it that way too

1480
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,680
joseph because this is something i think

1481
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:19,440
we need to clarify there's a lot of you

1482
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,200
know yes we

1483
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:22,960
the the common definition interpretation

1484
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,640
of false flag is an event that never

1485
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,799
happened and there's a lot of people out

1486
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:29,280
there who what they want to jump to put

1487
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:31,760
a false flag title on everything that

1488
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,000
happens meaning my full definition of oh

1489
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,920
it never really happened and if you

1490
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,680
disagree with them they say oh well

1491
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,760
you're drinking the kool-aid well in my

1492
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:41,680
position i think and what you just said

1493
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,559
too

1494
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,280
in my opinion is look when you say false

1495
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,799
flag you're implying that it didn't

1496
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,200
happen what we're saying is these things

1497
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,280
happen these attacks shootings they

1498
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,880
happen but just like what joseph was

1499
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,359
saying there's elements of false flag

1500
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:57,520
and and maybe we shouldn't use the term

1501
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:58,960
false flag when we're talking about this

1502
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,799
particular thing what what it is is

1503
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,040
there it's the multi-level stuff going

1504
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,079
on but yeah exactly manipulated events

1505
00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:08,240
manipulated events but these things

1506
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,720
happened okay those airplanes and all

1507
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,559
those people on them you know were used

1508
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:14,880
on 911 and those people died okay they

1509
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:17,119
didn't get sent to another dimension so

1510
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,720
they didn't find any bodies in uh

1511
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,160
shanksville

1512
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,400
they just got very strange all little

1513
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,480
pieces of human flesh it did not add up

1514
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,720
to the number of passengers right

1515
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:28,960
but you know san bernardino happened i

1516
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:31,520
mean i know people who are friends with

1517
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:32,319
the

1518
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:35,359
and

1519
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,319
happened now

1520
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,400
what happened what we're told what

1521
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,240
happened may not be

1522
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,920
yeah we have to get away from the idea

1523
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:46,000
that false flag means it didn't happen

1524
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,440
false flags

1525
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:49,760
traditionally are events that actually

1526
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:53,440
do happen but the problem is is that a

1527
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:54,480
narrative

1528
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:57,599
gets attached to false flags in order to

1529
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,240
justify some course of action

1530
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:02,400
that the people who either design the

1531
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,760
operation or who co-opt the operation

1532
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,079
want to put into place i mean world war

1533
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:10,480
ii starts over a false flag the the

1534
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,760
nazis mounted a a fake polish raid on a

1535
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,319
german radio station in in glyves down

1536
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,480
in southern silesia

1537
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,319
and you know we're off and running you

1538
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,040
know we've got world war ii so false

1539
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,359
flags don't mean that events don't

1540
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:27,920
happen what they are are events that are

1541
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:30,720
either deliberately planned

1542
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:31,520
or

1543
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,440
narrative is created around an event

1544
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,839
as a kind of a crisis of opportunity to

1545
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,760
pursue some agenda

1546
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,839
so you know i i'm in total agreement

1547
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:46,079
with walter here just be just because

1548
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,680
something's a false flag doesn't mean it

1549
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,839
didn't happen it means that you have to

1550
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:51,839
look deeper you have to look at

1551
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,920
the possibility that these events are to

1552
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,160
a certain extent staged

1553
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:58,160
and in some cases perhaps even

1554
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:01,839
penetrated and used by by people that

1555
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,880
want to pursue some agenda so these

1556
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,200
things will happen they take advantage

1557
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,920
of situations right do they know in

1558
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,440
advance some of these things are going

1559
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,799
to happen or

1560
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:15,520
is it just having the people around who

1561
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,480
pick up on something and say aha

1562
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:21,440
i think in 911's case uh you know and

1563
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:23,040
this is something i attempted to

1564
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,680
document in the book i think in 911's

1565
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,079
case clearly the united states was

1566
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,480
warned by a number of of nations

1567
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,400
intelligence agencies that that

1568
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:34,240
something was going to happen

1569
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,680
and in the case of some of those

1570
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:37,920
warnings specifically from russia the

1571
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:40,079
the warnings were very very specific the

1572
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:41,760
russians warned us you know this is the

1573
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:43,040
week something's going to happen on

1574
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,480
american soil it's going to involve

1575
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:47,200
hijackers and hijacked airplanes

1576
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,720
they're going to be prominent american

1577
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,720
attacks targets that are going to be

1578
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:52,799
attacked and so on and so forth

1579
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:55,359
so the warnings were quite specific

1580
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,160
and this led within the 911 truth

1581
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,000
community to the rise of you know the

1582
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,079
so-called lie hop or let it happen on

1583
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,920
purpose hypothesis

1584
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,599
and that was really kind of the favorite

1585
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,599
hypothesis until

1586
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,200
researchers kept digging and they

1587
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,319
discovered well during 9 11 there were

1588
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,319
any number of drills i mean the the

1589
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:16,960
amount of drills is astonishing

1590
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,359
and the drills in many cases amalgam

1591
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:22,240
virgo and some of these exercises

1592
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,359
mirror

1593
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,640
actual aspects of of the 911 operation

1594
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:28,880
itself other drills

1595
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:29,760
are

1596
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:31,760
it looks from from the point of view of

1597
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,960
what happens on 911 other drills look

1598
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:36,960
like they were designed to inject an

1599
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:39,359
element of tremendous confusion into the

1600
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:41,599
command and control structure

1601
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,240
of the country's military and civil

1602
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:46,319
authorities on that day

1603
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:47,200
so

1604
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:49,359
when you get to that point

1605
01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:52,160
you are really looking at an operation

1606
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,839
meaning 911 that was planned to some

1607
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:56,400
extent

1608
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,520
with somebody i call it a rogue network

1609
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:01,839
within the american military industrial

1610
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,240
intelligence complex that

1611
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,359
that had access to all of these drills

1612
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,400
and and the operation itself 911 is is

1613
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:12,720
designed around them

1614
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:15,280
so yeah i think you know that's the made

1615
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,599
it happen on purpose hypothesis that

1616
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,119
there's some element

1617
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:20,880
within this country a rogue group a

1618
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,799
faction if you will that's driving the

1619
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,440
events in order to create a false flag

1620
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:27,520
for a crisis of opportunity that they

1621
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,000
can use this to inject american power

1622
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,760
into the middle east

1623
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:33,920
now at the end what do they gain they

1624
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,079
want to get control over oil

1625
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:37,760
obviously they've completely screwed up

1626
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,240
the middle east yeah you know this is

1627
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,160
where this is where the 911 truth

1628
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,480
community actually in my opinion gene

1629
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,960
breaks down in its analysis

1630
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,119
because in order to exploit the energy

1631
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:51,040
resources of the region which is the

1632
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:53,760
typical explanation they give for why

1633
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,760
911 occurred

1634
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:57,760
you you can't exploit the energy

1635
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:01,440
resources of the region if it's unstable

1636
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:02,640
all right

1637
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,440
and this is part of of my reasoning why

1638
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:08,160
i think there was an even deeper level

1639
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,920
in other words i'm i'm one of the few

1640
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:11,440
people out there i think that looks at

1641
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:14,319
911 as a three level operation rather

1642
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:15,200
than

1643
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,119
as most 911

1644
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:19,200
truth researchers do as a two level

1645
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,799
operation i think

1646
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,960
that at some point this operation was

1647
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:25,200
penetrated by a completely outside

1648
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:26,960
source

1649
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:28,160
a completely

1650
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:31,200
external entity that had penetrated

1651
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:34,160
whatever road group within this country

1652
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:36,400
was planning and carrying out these

1653
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:37,760
attacks

1654
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,359
and that group

1655
01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:41,200
i think has a completely different

1656
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:43,040
agenda they want to see the middle east

1657
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,960
destabilize they

1658
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,079
kind of

1659
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,160
use the classical chess move you know

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when you pin an opponent's pieces on the

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chess board i think this is what happens

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because 911

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if you look at it that way pins the the

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american deep state

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into injecting american power into a

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very destabilized situation in other

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words it becomes a cauldron into which

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you're sucked and you can't really get

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out of very easily

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i think to a certain extent if you look

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carefully mr putin is trying to create

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the circumstances

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to restabilize the region and get us out

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of that and the reason i say that

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is that the russians when they were

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warning of these attacks that were going

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to come

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also made it very clear

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that these attacks were coming from a

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global network

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and in fact tony blair the british prime

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minister also said this after 9 11.

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let's break it fair and continue

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more about 11 speculation or maybe it's

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joseph let's continue on that because

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i'm more and more intrigued about where

1797
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this 911 discussion is going well the

1798
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third level in my opinion gene does

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represent this this kind of global

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breakaway network as i mentioned before

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the break

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there was a russian economics advisor to

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president putin her name is dr tatiana

1804
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coriagona and in july of 2001

1805
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,279
she said very definitely and very

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01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:49,600
clearly that not only would these

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attacks occur but the attacks would be

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01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,000
the

1809
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:56,480
planning of a global group

1810
01:09:01,910 --> 01:08:59,600
those were her words and then she added

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a few very powerful men who want to

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remake the entire world and they have

1813
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,120
assets in excess of 300 trillion dollars

1814
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,199
so in other words right away the russian

1815
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,359
warning is not fingering first of all

1816
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,040
let's know what is not fingering it's

1817
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:17,120
not fingering

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01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,359
islamic radicals and it secondly is not

1819
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:25,679
fingering a rogue element

1820
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:27,759
within the american deep state and i

1821
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:30,640
think again that argument from the 911

1822
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:33,040
truth community does have a lot of merit

1823
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,040
to it you can't plan an operation like

1824
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that with all of those concurrent drills

1825
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:40,480
without having some penetration into the

1826
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:42,560
american command structure and

1827
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,960
the behavior of of bush and cheney on

1828
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:46,560
that day indicate

1829
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,880
to me that yeah they at least knew some

1830
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:50,480
of this and may have been a part of it

1831
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:53,199
at some level but you've got a third

1832
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,080
element i think that injects itself

1833
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,560
during the operation announcing its

1834
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:01,280
presence as it were and at that point

1835
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,239
you see the bush administration

1836
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:06,320
begin to show evidence signs of panic

1837
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:08,480
and what do i mean by that if you look

1838
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:09,600
carefully

1839
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,040
just look at bush's

1840
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,760
where he went that day and ended up

1841
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:15,280
yeah exactly

1842
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,360
when he's at booker t elementary school

1843
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:18,880
he's very calm

1844
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:21,520
he continues with his photo op after the

1845
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photo op he gets up he gives a brief

1846
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,679
press conference and announces to

1847
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everybody that apparently america's

1848
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,679
under some sort of terrorist attack and

1849
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he and his team are going to be flying

1850
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back to washington then

1851
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he arrives at air force one

1852
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and the entire situation changes

1853
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,040
he flies not back to washington but he

1854
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flies from from sarasota to barksdale

1855
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,159
air force base in louisiana

1856
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:48,159
he jettisons the press corps he gives a

1857
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,239
brief statement at barksdale in which

1858
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,320
the terrorist narrative has been

1859
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:55,199
completely dropped he makes no reference

1860
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:58,640
to it he refers simply to attacks and to

1861
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some sort of test

1862
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,159
and then from barksdale he flies onto

1863
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,159
offutt air force base in in omaha

1864
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:06,400
nebraska now why is that significant

1865
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,920
well barksdale

1866
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:09,840
is the backup command

1867
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,320
for all of america's strategic nuclear

1868
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:14,400
forces and office of course is the

1869
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,960
command for all of america's strategic

1870
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:19,280
nuclear sources so in other words

1871
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:21,679
it looks like what he's doing is he's

1872
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:24,640
reasserting personal executive branch

1873
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,840
control over america's thermonuclear

1874
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,000
forces now why is that significant

1875
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,560
because on 911 believe it or not there

1876
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,880
is running a drill

1877
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,040
called global guardian in which all of

1878
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:39,440
america's thermonuclear forces

1879
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,080
submarines bombers icbms

1880
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,400
are on alert the highest alert that

1881
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:46,000
they've ever been on since the cuban

1882
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:48,800
missile crisis all right during this

1883
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:51,280
time period when he's flying to office

1884
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,080
it's also been uncovered by the 911

1885
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,760
research community

1886
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,679
that the white house received a number

1887
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,679
of calls to the white house switchboard

1888
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,440
from somebody they don't know who

1889
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:04,239
indicating that they had possession of

1890
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:07,600
top secret codes of the dea the fbi the

1891
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,360
dia the cia the nro and on anonymous

1892
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:13,440
goes so in other words somebody had

1893
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,040
penetrated the american command

1894
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:17,040
structure so deeply

1895
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:20,239
that they knew the operational codes of

1896
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,159
quite a few federal intelligence

1897
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:24,320
agencies so in other words what that

1898
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:26,719
signals to me and what bush's actions

1899
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:28,480
signal to me is that they thought they

1900
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,320
were in danger that someone might be

1901
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,120
able to launch our nuclear missiles so

1902
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:35,840
he had to reassert personal presidential

1903
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:38,560
control now this is interesting because

1904
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,440
with all the evidence out there that

1905
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,080
exists that there's some sort of

1906
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:46,000
bush administration connection whether

1907
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,600
it's bush and cheney themselves or

1908
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,040
people that they bring in with their

1909
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:51,120
administration who knows but that

1910
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:53,280
there's some sort of element of

1911
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,120
knowledge prior to the events that

1912
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,199
they're willing to let the events happen

1913
01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:59,360
or even were involved in planning them

1914
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:01,840
somehow that's level two but when you

1915
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,199
get these calls and bush's behavior

1916
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:07,360
that's what is revealing

1917
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:10,080
to me that there is a possible third

1918
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,480
level nine of the masters themselves had

1919
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:14,800
strings the puppet masters themselves

1920
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:17,679
were being co-opted by yet a third level

1921
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:19,840
that they had to reassert

1922
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:22,480
the executive branch control over

1923
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:25,040
america's nuclear forces on that day

1924
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,320
which of course they did and

1925
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,080
interestingly enough you'll recall that

1926
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,719
vice president cheney is whisked to the

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white house operations room so in other

1928
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,239
words that's another indicator that

1929
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:36,320
they're trying to forestall a coup in my

1930
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:39,040
opinion and then cheney after 9 11 you

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01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,199
recall disappears for for quite a few

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01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:42,960
weeks several months in fact he's he's

1933
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:45,280
not seen and i suspect what he's doing

1934
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:48,159
is since cheney was involved originally

1935
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under president reagan with

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drawing up the continuity of government

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01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:54,480
plans and so on that what this means

1938
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:56,960
that he was doing was number one he was

1939
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:58,960
trying to plug these security leaks that

1940
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had become evident and number two

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01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,280
redesigned the entire continuity of

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01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:05,760
government operations plan since it very

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01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:07,840
obviously had been co-opted so yeah i

1944
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,080
think there's a lot of indicators here

1945
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:12,719
that there was a third level to the 911

1946
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,360
operation that unbeknownst to the deep

1947
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:17,679
rogue network in the american deep state

1948
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:19,120
that that may have planned the whole

1949
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,159
thing

1950
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:22,960
this level reveals itself on 911 and

1951
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,440
catches everybody by surprise and i

1952
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,960
think ever since then they've been kind

1953
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:29,120
of scrambling to extricate themselves

1954
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:30,800
from that situation you know what's

1955
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,800
interesting to me is that whether it's

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republican or democrat and we think they

1957
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are diametrically opposed and they come

1958
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,520
out that way in the campaigns

1959
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:41,600
but once these people get in office

1960
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,080
they seem to toe a very narrow line

1961
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:46,239
we're figuring even donald trump is

1962
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,120
wacky and completely crazy right now and

1963
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:51,679
the things he says are exaggerations of

1964
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,159
standard right-wing dogma but if he were

1965
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to get into the white house he'd become

1966
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:58,719
sane or maybe not with donald trump i

1967
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:01,120
don't know wishful thinking i have my

1968
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,480
suspicions as to what trump represents

1969
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,239
let's look at the american deep state

1970
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:09,360
for a moment and the way that it evolved

1971
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:12,719
after world war ii one primary element

1972
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:15,360
of that deep state is the mafia if you

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01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:17,120
look at the mafia

1974
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,760
the mafia is even though it's a criminal

1975
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:22,400
underground it's a relatively patriotic

1976
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:25,440
group so i look at trump as possibly

1977
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,600
representing an element of the american

1978
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,840
deep state that is extremely

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dissatisfied with the way that the

1980
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globalists have been running things

1981
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because if you look at what has happened

1982
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under the obama administration and then

1983
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began to happen at the tail end of the

1984
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bush administration americans have been

1985
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losing their leisure time and leisure

1986
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:49,920
money so what has happened to the casino

1987
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:51,679
industry particularly in nevada it's

1988
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,320
been tanking trump of course represents

1989
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what well he makes his money off of

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01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,320
casinos so it looks to me like the

1991
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:00,719
possibility exists that trump is the

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candidate of a very dissatisfied faction

1993
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,640
within the american deep state in other

1994
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words i've been arguing for many years

1995
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:11,920
that since 9 11 it looks to me like

1996
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mr global or the globalists

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cartel or whatever you wish to call it

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the the anglosphere the financial

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oligarchs whatever that they have been

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as they've been approaching their end

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their game plan of instituting a truly

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global

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government and so on

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that the factions

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within that entity

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are increasingly at loggerheads with

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each other

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dr joseph farrell

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and walter bosley and gene and chris

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[Applause]

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to the paracast

2115
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:19,510
we continue with dr joseph farrell these

2116
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:21,440
forces being at loggerheads with one

2117
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,120
another how so

2118
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:25,040
before you go on joseph i want to point

2119
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:26,880
out that donald trump has built

2120
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:29,920
skyscrapers in manhattan sure okay and

2121
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:33,280
if you look at his the history of his

2122
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uh

2123
01:21:38,630 --> 01:21:36,960
relationship to labor his relationship

2124
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:38,640
to the

2125
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concrete industry which is totally mob

2126
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:43,520
controlled and again as you pointed out

2127
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,760
his involvement in in casinos in

2128
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,520
atlantic city and other places i mean it

2129
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:49,679
smacks organized crime all you know all

2130
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:50,800
up and down

2131
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every which way you look at his uh his

2132
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his history now do you think that this

2133
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is something that could be a political

2134
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liability to him going into an election

2135
01:22:02,870 --> 01:21:59,920
do you think that there's enough

2136
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:02,880
ammunition there to uh no i don't think

2137
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:04,880
it's a liability and i'll tell you why i

2138
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:06,960
again i think what he's representing is

2139
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,679
a dissatisfied disenfranchised part of

2140
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:11,760
the american deep state and and they're

2141
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:14,320
at loggerheads with the other components

2142
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:16,080
of the american deep state wall street

2143
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,600
the council on foreign relations the

2144
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rockefeller crew and so on in other

2145
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:20,320
words

2146
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:21,840
you have to go back to the fact that the

2147
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mafia even though traditionally it's

2148
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been involved in some very murky

2149
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criminal activity

2150
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,400
by and large is a very patriotic group

2151
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you know think santos trafficante or

2152
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:34,960
lucky luciano you know involved with the

2153
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:38,960
american oss during world war ii so

2154
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this group of people i think is seeing

2155
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their their bottom line hurt by the

2156
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current policies of people running

2157
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things

2158
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trump i don't think would be hurt by

2159
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this

2160
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and i'll tell you why i found it

2161
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:53,840
extremely suspicious

2162
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:56,239
that initially trump

2163
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:00,880
absolutely torpedoed jeb bush's campaign

2164
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:04,480
by putting the whole 9 11 truth issue

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out into the mainstream and basically by

2166
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bringing up things that were only talked

2167
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about within the 911 truth community in

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a presidential debate if you recall he

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just kind of left jeb bush kind of

2170
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stammering and stuttering and then the

2171
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next thing we know jeb bush is gone then

2172
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what happened well

2173
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he mentioned this this crazy connection

2174
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apparently

2175
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of ted cruz's father

2176
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to the anti-castro cuban group and

2177
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:33,440
immediately that that raises the whole

2178
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:36,080
kennedy assassination thing so trump

2179
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:37,520
looks to me

2180
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:40,320
like he's got somebody in his campaign i

2181
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don't know who i have my suspicions

2182
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that has been doing research

2183
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on all of these things that the

2184
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alternative community has been pursuing

2185
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for years

2186
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and trump is injecting these things into

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the political debate at key

2188
01:24:02,070 --> 01:23:58,719
key

2189
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,080
timed moments okay this is method in his

2190
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madness i was thinking here that he

2191
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works closely with roger stone yes yes

2192
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,840
he's very big about conspiratorial stuff

2193
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:11,600
well yeah you know he's done his own

2194
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research for many years in all of this

2195
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and i suspect that stone is kind of the

2196
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:18,639
tip of the iceberg here because if trump

2197
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:19,840
represents

2198
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:22,800
a dissatisfied sort of mafia faction

2199
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:24,639
within the deep state

2200
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:27,600
that group certainly will know a lot of

2201
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secrets and details

2202
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:31,440
and certainly has the ability to

2203
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:33,679
research them if they don't know them so

2204
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,199
yeah i think we're looking at the

2205
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:37,920
possibility that we're looking at real

2206
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,159
genuine factional infighting here that

2207
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:42,320
this is not just theater that something

2208
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:45,120
major is taking place behind the scenes

2209
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:47,440
so it's his group whatever it is

2210
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:49,520
fighting the traditional republican

2211
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party fighting not only the traditional

2212
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republican elite but fighting the

2213
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democratic gate

2214
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the other thing that people need to

2215
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remember is that the clintons and the

2216
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bushes have been in bed together

2217
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,800
really ever since iran contra and and

2218
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the mena arkansas you know drug running

2219
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scandals and all of that stuff which

2220
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:08,960
clinton completely protected as the

2221
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:11,679
youngest governor ever elected yeah

2222
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:14,239
1980. yeah absolutely they've been

2223
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closely allied and networked with each

2224
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:17,760
other so

2225
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:20,000
hillary clinton represents to me kind of

2226
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:22,639
kind of the old guard she's she's the

2227
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:26,000
cfr you know rockefeller bush clinton

2228
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,760
old guard now let's add one more thing

2229
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:29,280
into this picture

2230
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:31,679
last year interestingly enough henry

2231
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:33,679
kissinger of all people and of course

2232
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,120
kissinger's a big rockefeller cfr guy

2233
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,040
but he came out with a couple of op-ed

2234
01:25:44,229 --> 01:25:41,840
pieces that said our whole approach to

2235
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:44,239
handling russia is simply wrong we can't

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afford to be confrontational with russia

2237
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:48,320
and so on and so forth this was a major

2238
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break for someone like him in his

2239
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:53,280
position to do

2240
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with the obama administration which has

2241
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:58,159
been more or less kind of following the

2242
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:01,199
the policy and advocacy of big nef

2243
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,159
brzezinski another rockefeller man okay

2244
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,400
so in other words it looks to me like

2245
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:09,040
the powers that be within this american

2246
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:12,080
deep state are deeply deeply divided

2247
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:14,000
as to what the course of action should

2248
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:14,800
be

2249
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:19,440
several times since that's happened

2250
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:21,600
talking personally with president putin

2251
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:24,320
and sergey lavrov and some of the other

2252
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,120
high advisors in the russian cabinet

2253
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:29,600
so it looks to me again like that there

2254
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:31,760
is deep deep division

2255
01:26:36,629 --> 01:26:34,560
in the american deep state and trump

2256
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,639
represents one aspect of it and i think

2257
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,960
kissinger and some of his recent pieces

2258
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:41,280
represent yet another aspect of it now

2259
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:43,360
that leads me to believe here that trump

2260
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,159
is not as crazy as he sounds this is all

2261
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,719
a show and he's play acting i've never

2262
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,880
thought that trump is is as crazy as he

2263
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:53,120
sounds you know i haven't been following

2264
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:55,679
this election cycle very closely but

2265
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:57,199
what i have heard and what i have

2266
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,199
followed yeah he says crazy things but

2267
01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:01,679
you'll note he says think these crazy

2268
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,800
things

2269
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:05,520
with a kind of sense of timing

2270
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:08,320
that has worked to hurt his opponents

2271
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:10,400
more than any anything that it has done

2272
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:11,520
to him

2273
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,000
so yeah i think he you know trump is not

2274
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,639
an unintelligent man we need to get over

2275
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,480
this idea that he isn't

2276
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:20,639
i i think he's playing this very very

2277
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:23,520
carefully and very very astutely you may

2278
01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:25,040
not agree with him

2279
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:27,440
but he he certainly appears to me that

2280
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:28,239
there's

2281
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:29,920
and his campaign appears to me that

2282
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:31,520
there's certainly a lot more going on

2283
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,760
than first meets the eye

2284
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:35,280
he's not a guy you'd want to play poker

2285
01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:36,719
with no

2286
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:38,239
no exactly

2287
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,520
no well

2288
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:41,360
some of our listeners are going to be

2289
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their eyes are going to glaze over with

2290
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all the the talk about politics but but

2291
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,560
again i think all this does play into

2292
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:50,480
many of the subjects that we cover here

2293
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,440
at the paracast in terms of the ufo uh

2294
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,000
phenomenon as as joseph has pointed out

2295
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:58,320
and walters pointed out in their books

2296
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:00,480
how there could be a tie-in with

2297
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:02,800
these same operators that we've been

2298
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:04,960
talking about in terms of a contemporary

2299
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:06,560
sense but going back

2300
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:09,679
back in into proceeding decades i mean

2301
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:11,840
we could be dealing with with levels of

2302
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technology that's being misconstrued is

2303
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unidentified that it is actually very

2304
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:18,320
terrestrial in in very advanced and

2305
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,440
exotic um where does the tie-in

2306
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:24,400
where is that tie-in do you think guys

2307
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:28,000
that's walters baileywick

2308
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:29,679
where is that tie-in i mean what what

2309
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:31,120
are we dealing with here are we dealing

2310
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with with a a a super breakaway

2311
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:36,400
civilization that is really uh

2312
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:38,320
attempting to to to be the puppet

2313
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,880
masters for the puppet masters and and

2314
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,480
you know sort of

2315
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:44,800
circumvent uh agendas that have been in

2316
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:47,199
place for a while on the surface uh and

2317
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:48,639
and do you think that there's a

2318
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:50,400
connection in the utilization of high

2319
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:52,080
technology and all this oh yeah

2320
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:54,639
absolutely from my perspective

2321
01:28:59,350 --> 01:28:56,960
it is something that

2322
01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:59,360
quite frankly it it

2323
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:01,360
overtly not i don't want to say overtly

2324
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:02,560
how do i put this what we're dealing

2325
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with today

2326
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,280
the roots of it um are visible in the

2327
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19th century

2328
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um what joseph is talking about when

2329
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he's talking when you ask him you know

2330
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what is this thing today and he says

2331
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,080
it's coalesced into this big

2332
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:18,880
international thing from my perspective

2333
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:22,560
that is the product of that mysterious

2334
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:25,679
nimza side of things whatever this nimza

2335
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was

2336
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,480
exactly because i'm convinced that uh

2337
01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:31,920
the nazi

2338
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:38,239
that they're involved with all this are

2339
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:41,120
a direct product of this mysterious

2340
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:43,679
nimza okay now i'm talking about the the

2341
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:46,080
nazi science and technology the nazi war

2342
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:47,040
machine

2343
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:49,120
um anything within the nazi political

2344
01:30:03,510 --> 01:29:57,350
i have to pull the book out to pronounce

2345
01:30:08,229 --> 01:30:05,430
there you go

2346
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um essentially it was a prussian

2347
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um entity prussian organization that of

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course had its

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people behind it you know when they

2350
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founded it in the 19th century that was

2351
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the active organization in my opinion um

2352
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:24,639
that developed uh the technology that

2353
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became you know

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the ufos of the 20th century and they

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developed the technology that the nazis

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took a step further with things like the

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bell and such

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and such we have to break walter bosley

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dr joseph farrell gene and chris you're

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2472
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,080
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2473
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2474
01:35:15,290 --> 01:35:19,669
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2475
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:20,790
walter

2476
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:23,440
nim's organization they

2477
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:25,679
they bring with it these german

2478
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,400
banksters okay the very same german

2479
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:30,719
banksters that you can point to uh

2480
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:33,600
connected to the nazi era

2481
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,320
in the 20th century these by name a lot

2482
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:38,159
of them you can connect them to this

2483
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:41,520
19th century nimsa organization okay so

2484
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:44,639
it's almost as if that the nazi era

2485
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,719
was the fruition of what these prussian

2486
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:50,880
nationalists envisioned in the 19th

2487
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:54,159
century of course in a very dark way now

2488
01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:56,400
through the whole nazi

2489
01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:59,600
experience of the world war ii era this

2490
01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:02,239
nimza has created in my opinion this

2491
01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:04,639
international breakaway civilization

2492
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:07,280
that joseph was referring to earlier now

2493
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:09,840
those who've read my books or heard me

2494
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:11,440
read the book origin ever heard me talk

2495
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:13,840
here yes there is another group i'm

2496
01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:16,320
convinced that i call the american group

2497
01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:18,800
i sometimes refer to it as the 1903 for

2498
01:36:22,709 --> 01:36:20,480
a particular reason

2499
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:22,719
i'm still convinced that there is a

2500
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:24,480
separate breakaway

2501
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:28,800
that exists that is less involved in the

2502
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:31,440
political and conspiratorial intrigues

2503
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:33,280
here they're they're just they they're

2504
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:34,880
opposed to this

2505
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:37,520
what i still call the nimsa and and yes

2506
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:40,800
i think it was the the nimsa slash nazi

2507
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:42,639
international that was behind you know

2508
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:45,440
that third level of uh 911 and such but

2509
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:47,440
there isn't i i'm convinced still that

2510
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,199
there is an american group that did

2511
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:51,360
break away early 20th century

2512
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,560
and

2513
01:36:57,669 --> 01:36:55,199
at this point in time my position is

2514
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,679
honestly i don't know exactly where

2515
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:58,719
they're at

2516
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:01,920
or to what extent i can say that they've

2517
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,760
been involved they're just they're just

2518
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:05,760
kind of out there for me the evidence is

2519
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:07,040
there that that they're out there but

2520
01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:09,199
when joseph and i are talking about this

2521
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,119
international breakaway that's pulling

2522
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:13,280
the strings this is the dark breakaway

2523
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:15,600
in my opinion this is that nimza slash

2524
01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:17,600
nazi international and the other group

2525
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:19,679
is building the ark to get the hell out

2526
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:20,880
of here

2527
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,639
the other group uh well my opinion the

2528
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:24,880
other group made that decision over a

2529
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,560
hundred years ago but you know they

2530
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:28,880
probably dash back in and keep a thumb

2531
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:30,560
on the pulse of things let me add

2532
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:32,239
something just to kind of clarify

2533
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:34,239
something that he's saying and that is

2534
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:37,440
that that the nimza is is the group that

2535
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,679
is connected to the 19th century airship

2536
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:42,239
mystery yes so in other words it's it's

2537
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,320
a group that's developing for the day

2538
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:47,520
exotic technologies and trying to do so

2539
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:49,920
with hidden finance and with an element

2540
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:52,159
of secrecy and it's not connected really

2541
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:53,199
to

2542
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:57,280
mystery in this country is is in the

2543
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:59,199
19th century so you know just to put

2544
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:01,040
that out there if people don't know what

2545
01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,880
nimsa is

2546
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:04,719
right well we do have some questions

2547
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:06,880
here most of them have to do with the

2548
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:09,679
the tie-in between alien technology and

2549
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:12,159
uh these breakaway groups plural

2550
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,320
there's one question here you walter

2551
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,400
mentioned the bell and

2552
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:18,719
i do recommend highly joseph's book the

2553
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:20,080
brotherhood of the bell

2554
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:22,000
which looks at

2555
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:24,480
the project that was taking place

2556
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:26,320
in czechoslovakia in the late stages of

2557
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,480
the latter stages of the war the bell

2558
01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:30,639
project um we have a question from dave

2559
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:32,719
m and he's wondering uh joseph if you

2560
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:35,119
believe that the advanced technology

2561
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:36,880
in the bell project was developed solely

2562
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:38,560
by nazi scientists or with the help of

2563
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:40,320
aliens and their technology do you think

2564
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,080
this was all a homespun thing or do you

2565
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:44,000
think they had some help no i don't

2566
01:38:49,750 --> 01:38:46,480
think they had help from aliens

2567
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:49,760
i have a strong aversion to

2568
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:52,080
that kind of case because

2569
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:55,440
what that really does effectively as far

2570
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:57,119
as i've been able to tell within the

2571
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:00,000
ufology community as i like to call it

2572
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:02,880
is that it prevents people from going

2573
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,040
out and trying to rationalize on the

2574
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,119
basis of human science and the

2575
01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:09,440
scientific papers of the period

2576
01:39:14,470 --> 01:39:11,760
whether such a thing would be possible

2577
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:14,480
i've spent most of my time

2578
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,960
examining the bell pointing out

2579
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:19,119
that you don't need to go to any sort of

2580
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:21,520
alien technology crashed or recovered

2581
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:23,199
vehicles in order to be able to

2582
01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:25,760
rationalize the type of physics thinking

2583
01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:27,280
that may have been behind it because

2584
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:30,560
it's there in the papers of the era

2585
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:32,239
all right and most importantly it's

2586
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:35,280
there in the thinking of a genius

2587
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,719
uh hungarian

2588
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:38,320
electrical engineer by the name of

2589
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:42,480
gabriel crone points out in 1935 he won

2590
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:44,480
a paper at the university of liege in

2591
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:47,360
belgium for this paper he won a prize

2592
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:48,960
from this university

2593
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:51,520
and in the paper he argues that the

2594
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:54,239
transients and other anomalies that

2595
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:57,040
electrical engineers are dealing with

2596
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:58,480
when they're dealing especially with

2597
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:00,560
large network systems and large

2598
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:03,600
networked rotating electrical systems

2599
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:07,280
can be explained by the use of the then

2600
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,159
extant unified field theories like

2601
01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:12,800
teodor kaluza and so on and what he's

2602
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,960
really telling you then is that the

2603
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:17,119
tensor calculus equations that you know

2604
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:19,520
einstein used in general relativity can

2605
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:20,400
be

2606
01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:21,520
used

2607
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:24,639
to engineer electrical systems and hyper

2608
01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:26,880
dimensional types of physics right on

2609
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:28,639
the laboratory bench

2610
01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:31,600
using 1930s electrical technology that's

2611
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:34,639
huge that's huge yeah so in other words

2612
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:36,960
no i i absolutely

2613
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,480
refuse to to go first to et as an

2614
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:42,320
explanation that's silly that's selling

2615
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,000
humans short i mean we're a lot more

2616
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:46,320
savver and smart than the average person

2617
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:48,960
realized exactly exactly

2618
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:50,560
exactly the other thing that you need to

2619
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:52,639
look at you know is the head of the bell

2620
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:54,639
project was was a german scientist by

2621
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,880
the name of dr walter gerlock

2622
01:41:02,149 --> 01:40:59,280
and gerlock was an internationally known

2623
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,159
well-respected physicist during the era

2624
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:05,360
and gerlock's interest was in things

2625
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,639
like gravitation electrical polarization

2626
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:10,800
spin polarization and so on and so forth

2627
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,440
so he's the perfect sort of scientist

2628
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:15,679
to head up a project like this

2629
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:17,600
so yeah it's there you know in the

2630
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:19,440
record if you bother to look but you're

2631
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:21,360
not going to bother to look for that

2632
01:41:25,109 --> 01:41:22,960
record if in fact you think that

2633
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:25,119
everything exotic is due to a crashed

2634
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:27,520
and recovered extraterrestrial vehicle

2635
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:29,920
for which the evidence in the nazis case

2636
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:33,679
is thread bare at best yeah i don't care

2637
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:36,320
if a ufo crashed in the black forest in

2638
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,760
1931

2639
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:39,600
there were a lot of very very smart

2640
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,239
scientists and sure engineers in germany

2641
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,760
during the time period i mean einstein

2642
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,080
you could count among them yes even

2643
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:48,239
though he emigrated because he kind of

2644
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:50,080
read the writing on the wall and got the

2645
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:52,400
you know the hell out of dodge basically

2646
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:55,840
as did others but when you look at the

2647
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:58,880
tremendous technological advances that

2648
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,440
emerged from the german war machine in

2649
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:03,040
world war ii

2650
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:05,600
a lot of that technology uh even though

2651
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:07,280
some of it was kept in the public realm

2652
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:08,960
with rocketry and

2653
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:11,040
a few things there were some projects

2654
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:12,480
like the bell project there were some

2655
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,600
projects that went underground and were

2656
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,000
appropriated probably by ourselves and

2657
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:21,199
possibly the soviets that then

2658
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:23,360
there was a huge uh technological push

2659
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:26,000
to realize the the progress that had

2660
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,159
been made and i think it we really do

2661
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,239
ourselves a disservice to think that we

2662
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:33,119
need the help of et to do anything uh

2663
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:35,360
advanced and exotic we need to remember

2664
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:37,840
that the nazis set up long before the

2665
01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:40,000
war after they came to power the nazis

2666
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,960
set up

2667
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:43,040
essentially the the nazi version of

2668
01:42:46,790 --> 01:42:44,639
darpa you know the defense and mass

2669
01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:46,800
research projects agency

2670
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:48,880
they set up this kind of secret weapons

2671
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:51,280
think tank under under the command of an

2672
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:54,480
ss general by the name of hans commer

2673
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:57,119
and comler when he was put in charge of

2674
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:58,800
this think tank

2675
01:43:03,910 --> 01:43:01,679
basically freed all of the involved

2676
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:03,920
scientists from any sort of adherence to

2677
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:05,840
nazi party dogma he just said you know

2678
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,360
forget about all that stuff just

2679
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,960
brainstorm your way

2680
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,280
to you know all of these exotic weapons

2681
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:13,280
in other words he created a culture a

2682
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,400
climate

2683
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:16,000
where thinking out of the box was

2684
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,080
welcomed even if it meant thinking

2685
01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:20,000
outside the nazi box

2686
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:21,679
it's interesting to me that after the

2687
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:24,080
war president eisenhower creates our

2688
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,480
later darpa which in effect is an

2689
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:29,040
american kind of mirror organization of

2690
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,800
what what commerce group was was

2691
01:43:34,149 --> 01:43:32,560
expected to do

2692
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:34,159
so yeah in that climate you're going to

2693
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,760
see all sorts of things happen you're

2694
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:37,119
going to see the development of heat

2695
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:38,800
seeking rockets which they did you're

2696
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:39,679
going to see

2697
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,679
the development of of television guided

2698
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:43,520
missiles which they did you know all of

2699
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:44,960
this stuff

2700
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:47,280
so we don't need to go to et to explain

2701
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:48,560
hulk

2702
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:51,920
do you think there are any ets out there

2703
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:53,119
sure

2704
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:56,800
agreed

2705
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:58,639
okay just kind of checking on the

2706
01:44:03,189 --> 01:44:00,000
theories here

2707
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:03,199
so the existence of ets is separate from

2708
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:05,600
the existence of ufos

2709
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,840
not entirely but uh probably about 90

2710
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:11,280
is the number i've thrown out there in

2711
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:14,719
the past for what people have seen here

2712
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:18,000
yeah my my rule of thumb gene is is does

2713
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:23,669
event

2714
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:25,840
compel you to the conclusion that it

2715
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:28,400
must be extraterrestrial

2716
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,840
and in most cases it doesn't for me

2717
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:33,440
particularly when you go back and

2718
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:36,239
examine the record from from the 1930s

2719
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:37,840
all the scientific papers that are being

2720
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:40,000
produced in that period of time

2721
01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:41,920
much less since then

2722
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:44,320
when you examine the record and and look

2723
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,800
at it that way it doesn't

2724
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,760
present to me a compelling scientific

2725
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:51,520
conclusion that all of these things have

2726
01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:52,880
to be e.t

2727
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:54,159
you know if you're talking if you're

2728
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,159
talking in terms of

2729
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:58,560
let's say air force general shulgin and

2730
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:01,040
his intelligence collection memorandum

2731
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:03,679
in september of 1947.

2732
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:05,840
if you're if you're talking about ufos

2733
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:09,360
that leave jet contrails and noises

2734
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,320
um

2735
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:13,119
and traveling you know at mach 1 or

2736
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:14,080
better

2737
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:16,000
this isn't fast enough to be something

2738
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:18,159
from another planet

2739
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:20,159
much less another star system so in

2740
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:21,360
other words what i'm saying is the

2741
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,960
physics and engineering doesn't compel

2742
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:24,320
you to e.t

2743
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:26,880
joseph farrell walter bosley gene and

2744
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:38,709
[Music]

2745
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:43,350
thank you for listening to gcn

2746
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,910
visit gcnlive.com today

2747
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:49,750
first game attack of the rockoids and it

2748
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:51,760
was a critically acclaimed success and

2749
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:53,119
now there is the coming of the

2750
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:55,040
protectors a former military

2751
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:57,199
intelligence man is contacted by a space

2752
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:58,400
woman in a dream

2753
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:00,719
a dream that turns out to be a nightmare

2754
01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:02,560
because evil forces on her distant

2755
01:46:07,030 --> 01:46:04,719
planet are planning to conquer the earth

2756
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:07,040
this is gripping science fiction of the

2757
01:46:11,669 --> 01:46:09,679
classic kind attack of the rockoids and

2758
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:11,679
the coming of the protectors find out

2759
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:13,840
more at rockoids.com that's

2760
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2761
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2764
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2765
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2766
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2770
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2771
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:51,350
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2772
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intimate moments we see many ads for

2773
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enhancement but the side effects include

2774
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,239
death at gcn team we should change the

2775
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2776
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healthy libido pack the brain and heart

2777
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are not the only organs that require a

2778
01:47:08,430 --> 01:47:06,480
healthy vascular system for proper blood

2779
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:08,440
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2780
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2781
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2782
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2783
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2785
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2786
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2787
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2788
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2789
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2790
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2791
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2792
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2793
01:48:03,510 --> 01:47:59,830
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2794
01:48:04,709 --> 01:48:03,520
standard of paranormal radio

2795
01:48:08,110 --> 01:48:04,719
and now

2796
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:08,120
here's gene steinberg

2797
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:12,709
so

2798
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:13,840
e.t

2799
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:15,760
well if if you look at the shogun

2800
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:16,960
memorandum

2801
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,000
of 1947 there's actually two versions of

2802
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,400
it out there and i i i go into

2803
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:24,800
dissecting this this document

2804
01:48:28,229 --> 01:48:26,960
in my book roswell and the reich and i i

2805
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:28,239
spend a lot of time with it because

2806
01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:29,679
there's two versions one very

2807
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:32,719
self-evidently fraudulent because the

2808
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:35,440
fraudulent version is the version where

2809
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,520
you have phrases injected into the

2810
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:39,360
document that are pointing at et but the

2811
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,360
original document doesn't mention et at

2812
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:43,840
all in fact the original document if

2813
01:48:47,830 --> 01:48:46,320
anything is more concerned about trying

2814
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:47,840
to figure out just exactly what the

2815
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,320
nazis are up to during the war

2816
01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,320
so if you read the fraudulent document

2817
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:54,320
you know it reads well this is all et

2818
01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:55,679
and we need to go find out where the

2819
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:58,320
horton brothers are you know and my

2820
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,639
reaction to that is what say what the

2821
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:02,639
horton brothers you know the designers

2822
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:04,320
of the flying wing

2823
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:05,679
you know what have they got to do with

2824
01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:08,159
this but if you take all those phrases

2825
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:08,960
out

2826
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:11,199
and look at the document as sheldon

2827
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:13,280
originally pended there's no mention of

2828
01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:14,159
et

2829
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,560
what there is is there's mention of

2830
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:18,560
some exotic technology that they've

2831
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,679
encountered

2832
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:21,199
you get the impression from the document

2833
01:49:24,709 --> 01:49:22,560
that they suspect

2834
01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:24,719
it's nazi and origin and we need to find

2835
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:26,320
out where the originators of some of

2836
01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:28,719
this exotic looking stuff are and you

2837
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:30,000
know i'll tell you where they were they

2838
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:32,080
were down in argentina

2839
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:33,360
working on

2840
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,239
secret stuff for juan peron so

2841
01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:38,639
it's interesting if if you really want

2842
01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:40,800
to stop and do the analytical thinking

2843
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:42,239
for some of these documents that have

2844
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:43,119
been

2845
01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:46,560
touted by the e.t ufology crowd and and

2846
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:48,639
really sit down and analyze them and use

2847
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:50,480
a little bit of common sense they're

2848
01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:52,400
telling you something very different

2849
01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:54,800
from what the et crowd wants you to say

2850
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:56,320
and and accept about them they're

2851
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:58,639
telling you that there's an aspect of

2852
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:00,960
nazi technology that was hidden even to

2853
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:03,040
the to the high american brass after

2854
01:50:07,590 --> 01:50:05,520
world war ii and they had to go out and

2855
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:07,600
find it and find out what was being done

2856
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:09,840
with it wouldn't that be perfect fertile

2857
01:50:14,470 --> 01:50:12,400
ground for societal manipulation

2858
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:14,480
everybody believed that it's actually

2859
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:17,119
et's coming in flying craft around our

2860
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:19,840
skies uh as an effective smoke screen to

2861
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,320
hide uh exotic technology as it's being

2862
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:24,639
developed exactly and that concept there

2863
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,080
is why i say

2864
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:28,000
that is one of the reasons why i say i'm

2865
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,080
convinced for multiple reasons but why i

2866
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:32,400
say that ninety percent of what people

2867
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:34,880
have been reporting as ufos thinking

2868
01:50:40,149 --> 01:50:37,199
it's e.t 90 of it's actually our own

2869
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:40,159
terrestrial classified technology right

2870
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:42,239
you know we get the size argument many

2871
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:44,800
times with you know these large mile

2872
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,040
wide triangular vehicles and so on you

2873
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:48,800
know i hear the size argument well human

2874
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:50,639
beings couldn't possibly build anything

2875
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,360
that size well you know again nonsense

2876
01:50:57,990 --> 01:50:55,280
look at the hindenburg i mean you know

2877
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:58,000
that was built with 1930s technology

2878
01:51:01,990 --> 01:51:00,159
so imagine you can build a collapsible

2879
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:02,000
triangular balloon fill it with a bunch

2880
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,520
of helium and put

2881
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:05,280
electrical differential plates on the

2882
01:51:08,470 --> 01:51:07,280
thing and a bunch of capacitors and off

2883
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:08,480
you go

2884
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:11,119
so again just apply a little common

2885
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:14,000
sense and allow your mind to do a little

2886
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:16,400
brainstorming in terms of engineering

2887
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:18,000
and a lot of this a lot of these

2888
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:19,760
arguments collapse

2889
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:20,400
so

2890
01:51:24,629 --> 01:51:23,040
you look at you have to look at the

2891
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:24,639
physical

2892
01:51:29,590 --> 01:51:27,040
clues in human science before you can

2893
01:51:31,590 --> 01:51:29,600
leap to et and and once you start doing

2894
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:31,600
that i mean my word there's a website

2895
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:32,639
out there

2896
01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:35,440
of just anti-gravity patents alone

2897
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,440
patents patents

2898
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:39,040
in the public record

2899
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:42,400
there's scores of from the 1950s on down

2900
01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:45,199
to our own time this is the stuff

2901
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:46,800
that hasn't been pulled for national

2902
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,080
security reasons so again you have to to

2903
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:51,920
put yourself in the frame of mind that

2904
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:54,080
philosophically yeah could there be et's

2905
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:55,840
yeah could they be visiting here share

2906
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:58,239
thing but from an investigative point of

2907
01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:01,040
view from a theoretical point of view do

2908
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:03,119
you want to go there first and initially

2909
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:05,440
well no the answer is no because if you

2910
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:07,920
go there initially you're bypassing the

2911
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,320
very real possibility as walters pointed

2912
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:12,159
out with his nimsa research that this

2913
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:14,560
stuff actually begins to be researched

2914
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:17,040
and developed by humans in the 19th

2915
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:19,360
century and it's continued ever since i

2916
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,080
bet you stephen greer and david wilcock

2917
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,159
and and those folks

2918
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:26,159
have not read your books because if they

2919
01:52:29,589 --> 01:52:27,599
had i think they'd be a little bit more

2920
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:29,599
circumspect with some of the wild

2921
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:31,119
whistleblowers that they've trot out

2922
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:32,719
every six months

2923
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:33,599
there's a

2924
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:36,159
space war with aliens and going on over

2925
01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:37,280
our heads

2926
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:39,840
they won't read the books no they want

2927
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,400
the point they will not read the books

2928
01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:44,400
these books are too inconvenient to

2929
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,719
their schtick and it's not only that you

2930
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,480
mentioned something else chris that's

2931
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:50,159
very important you mentioned the term

2932
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:51,599
whistleblowers

2933
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,400
i do not rely and trust me i've had

2934
01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:56,320
several offers from people claiming to

2935
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:58,560
to represent be involved with this or

2936
01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:00,639
that branch of the government and my

2937
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:03,199
response has always been to issue any

2938
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,440
invitations for inside knowledge or

2939
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:06,639
stories

2940
01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:08,560
because there's no way

2941
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:11,199
that any average person can verify these

2942
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,400
things

2943
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:14,880
i'm a researcher i look at what's in the

2944
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:17,520
public record and i attempt to analyze

2945
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:20,080
on that basis and speculate on that

2946
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,800
basis and i admit i do but it's at least

2947
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:24,719
an argued speculation rather than

2948
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:27,119
relying on somebody getting in front of

2949
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:28,800
a camera and saying i'm a whistleblower

2950
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:30,480
i used to work for such and such an

2951
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:33,360
agency and i saw this because at best

2952
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,520
this is hearsay testimony i'd like to

2953
01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:37,599
throw in there too not just you know

2954
01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:40,480
like joseph said the average person but

2955
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:42,480
to be honest even those of us who have

2956
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,840
been in

2957
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,840
you know that classified world it's

2958
01:53:50,189 --> 01:53:48,000
difficult for the for those people to

2959
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:50,199
examine anything thanks to

2960
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:51,920
compartmentalization which by the way

2961
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:54,080
i'm not opposed to compartmentalization

2962
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,880
is how you maintain operational security

2963
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,920
exactly

2964
01:54:01,830 --> 01:53:59,920
you know a lot of times people say well

2965
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:01,840
this guy you know he was this and he had

2966
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:03,520
that clearance he can know all the

2967
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:05,119
answers well you know i'm one of those

2968
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:07,119
guys who had the clearance and i've

2969
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:09,520
always been honest i i can't tell you

2970
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:11,360
that i know the whole picture there's

2971
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,040
some things that of course i'm not going

2972
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:14,960
to talk about because they have to do

2973
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,679
with defense technology and i'm by law

2974
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:19,119
committed to not talk about those

2975
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:20,400
details but

2976
01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:24,560
you know so before people jump to et

2977
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,119
they do need to consider that

2978
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:29,840
you know there is more likely a very

2979
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:31,840
terrestrial um source and origin for

2980
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,520
these things and i find that just as

2981
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,119
fascinating as

2982
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:37,520
is the et hypothesis i mean think about

2983
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:39,360
it that puts a whole new spin on human

2984
01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:40,400
history

2985
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:42,880
that some people are taking a look at

2986
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:44,880
and but but a lot of people aren't

2987
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,440
because et is more fun

2988
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:49,599
most people are falling for the um the

2989
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:51,920
manipulation the uh the the pop culture

2990
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:53,119
programming

2991
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:55,360
that's been rampant uh all the way back

2992
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:58,080
into the 40s really

2993
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:59,040
i think

2994
01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:00,719
once these

2995
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:02,719
possibly exotic technologies were

2996
01:55:06,709 --> 01:55:04,719
trotted out to see what kind of response

2997
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:06,719
they would get from the unsuspecting

2998
01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:07,840
public

2999
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:10,480
i think the powers that be instantly saw

3000
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,320
hey this could be a really good

3001
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:15,520
smokescreen cover sure for these

3002
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:18,000
technologies and for these programs uh

3003
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:20,000
to allow people to just

3004
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:22,159
kind of fantasize and go into sci-fi

3005
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:23,679
land and think that we're being visited

3006
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:26,080
and and and the rest of it sure there's

3007
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:27,520
probably uh

3008
01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:30,159
millions billions of civilizations out

3009
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,840
there in the cosmos but like i've said

3010
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:33,840
so many times on this show

3011
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:35,520
the very fact that they haven't visited

3012
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:38,320
here shows how intelligent they are

3013
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:39,840
because you would want to visit a place

3014
01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:43,599
so um you know so rod in in

3015
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:45,760
don't get me started

3016
01:55:48,310 --> 01:55:47,040
you you mean why would they want to

3017
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:48,320
visit here because why would they want

3018
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:50,320
to visit such a primitive unevolved

3019
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:52,880
misogynist you know what but that

3020
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,159
destroying the

3021
01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:57,040
ecosystem i don't i don't buy into that

3022
01:56:01,589 --> 01:55:59,360
we're such terrible unworthy you know

3023
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:01,599
what here's my view those et guys out

3024
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,840
there um you you point to one that's so

3025
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:05,520
much better than us you know i tell

3026
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:07,040
people all the time just because they

3027
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:08,639
might have developed a technology to get

3028
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:10,320
themselves from one planet or one star

3029
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:12,639
to the next i mean look at it

3030
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:14,159
what do we develop most of our

3031
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:16,719
technology for primarily for warfare

3032
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:18,719
right for military as well what makes

3033
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:20,239
them any different you know just because

3034
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:21,840
they're able to come here from a far

3035
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,639
place doesn't suddenly bathe them in

3036
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:26,560
moral purification yeah i i have to

3037
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:28,639
agree with walter here just just because

3038
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:30,159
you're technologically advanced there's

3039
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:32,320
no logical connection between

3040
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:34,080
technological advancement and and

3041
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:36,239
spiritual advancement um

3042
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,239
well i'm i was referring to this uh in

3043
01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:40,159
the vernacular the benevolent space

3044
01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:42,000
brother crowd i think that the thing

3045
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,400
that would be most attractive uh to an

3046
01:56:48,390 --> 01:56:46,159
outside uh civilization would be the

3047
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,400
wonderful biodiversity here right and we

3048
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:50,400
are the most detrimental thing to that

3049
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:51,760
environment

3050
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:53,599
to this wonderful diversity

3051
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:55,119
well yeah if they're benevolent space

3052
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:56,800
brothers the argument holds you know why

3053
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:58,320
would they want to visit a planet like

3054
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:59,119
this

3055
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:01,199
if they are if they but that's you know

3056
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:02,800
that's the precise point are they

3057
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:05,360
benevolent and and you know if you if

3058
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:06,480
you

3059
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,440
the idea of advanced technology to to

3060
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:12,960
e.t

3061
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:15,599
and if you suspect like many do that

3062
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:17,199
they've been around for a long time

3063
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:19,040
since ancient times you know ancient

3064
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,520
astronaut theory and all of that well

3065
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:23,520
this is again a problem because if you

3066
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:26,080
go back to those ancient texts

3067
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:27,599
and look at those ancient texts as

3068
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:29,360
referring to those people the problem is

3069
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:31,040
those ancient texts

3070
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:33,119
are talking about warfare and constant

3071
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:35,760
conflict and enslavement of humanity so

3072
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:37,040
in other words these were not a nice

3073
01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:38,400
group of people

3074
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,280
okay

3075
01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:41,199
more to come with gene and chris you're

3076
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first game attack of the rockoids and it

3077
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was a critically acclaimed success and

3078
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now there is the coming of the

3079
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protectors a former military

3080
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intelligence man is contacted by a space

3081
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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

3082
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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

3083
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her distant planet are planning to

3084
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conquer the earth this is gripping

3085
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3086
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3180
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you're on with gene and chris and dr

3181
02:02:17,510 --> 02:02:16,400
joseph farrell and walter bosley

3182
02:02:19,430 --> 02:02:17,520
and chris

3183
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:19,440
you have something to pick up on

3184
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:21,040
i do um we have a question from

3185
02:02:24,830 --> 02:02:22,639
chuckleberry finn

3186
02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:24,840
who posted at the question bank at

3187
02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:26,159
forum.theparacast.com where our

3188
02:02:29,109 --> 02:02:27,760
listeners get a chance to ask our

3189
02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:29,119
esteemed guests

3190
02:02:31,669 --> 02:02:30,480
questions

3191
02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:31,679
and

3192
02:02:35,669 --> 02:02:33,199
this one has to do with the whole

3193
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:35,679
concept of ultra terrestrials or or as

3194
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:38,719
uh mactones uh coined the term crypto

3195
02:02:43,430 --> 02:02:40,800
terrestrials do you think there's any

3196
02:02:46,070 --> 02:02:43,440
possibility of a link between a hidden

3197
02:02:48,629 --> 02:02:46,080
tenant in the building and the so-called

3198
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:48,639
breakaway civilization my quick answer

3199
02:02:52,229 --> 02:02:49,840
is

3200
02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:52,239
yes i think there's a possibility and

3201
02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:54,400
that's what i'm exploring in my new book

3202
02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:55,920
that i'm working on and i'll throw it to

3203
02:02:59,589 --> 02:02:57,040
joseph

3204
02:03:02,790 --> 02:02:59,599
well i yeah i definitely think there is

3205
02:03:04,149 --> 02:03:02,800
we we can't we can't narrow

3206
02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:04,159
our thinking

3207
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:06,800
at least at this stage in my opinion to

3208
02:03:11,430 --> 02:03:09,599
just the idea of extraterrestrials

3209
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:11,440
i think the possibility

3210
02:03:16,149 --> 02:03:13,360
definitely exists

3211
02:03:18,070 --> 02:03:16,159
that if there was a very very high

3212
02:03:18,870 --> 02:03:18,080
ancient civilization

3213
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:18,880
that

3214
02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:20,880
if it blew itself apart at least some of

3215
02:03:23,669 --> 02:03:21,840
those

3216
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:23,679
people may have decided to go

3217
02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:27,360
underground maybe underwater who knows

3218
02:03:32,790 --> 02:03:30,400
but we have to we have to at least admit

3219
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:32,800
the possibility the other thing you ask

3220
02:03:36,229 --> 02:03:34,960
is could they be in the building so so

3221
02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:36,239
to speak could they be part of the

3222
02:03:40,470 --> 02:03:38,719
breakaway civilization

3223
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:40,480
that to me

3224
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,719
is one of the most interesting questions

3225
02:03:49,030 --> 02:03:44,560
in all of this

3226
02:03:52,470 --> 02:03:49,040
if you look at the the ancient texts

3227
02:03:54,629 --> 02:03:52,480
if indeed we're dealing with another

3228
02:03:57,430 --> 02:03:54,639
group of people

3229
02:03:59,750 --> 02:03:57,440
in the gods and so on what's very

3230
02:04:02,149 --> 02:03:59,760
self-evident from the text is that they

3231
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:02,159
look like us and walk like us all right

3232
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,280
in other words they're kind of our

3233
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:05,360
genetic cousins there's

3234
02:04:09,109 --> 02:04:06,960
there's another

3235
02:04:10,470 --> 02:04:09,119
group out there of in the genus homo

3236
02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:10,480
sapiens

3237
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:15,440
something you know some some

3238
02:04:19,910 --> 02:04:18,159
species slightly different from humanity

3239
02:04:20,950 --> 02:04:19,920
and if they look like us and walk like

3240
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:20,960
us

3241
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,159
could they be

3242
02:04:26,149 --> 02:04:24,480
therefore infiltrating us well the

3243
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:26,159
answer is yes

3244
02:04:31,430 --> 02:04:29,520
and i think this is perhaps

3245
02:04:35,109 --> 02:04:31,440
if you want to speculate wildly here for

3246
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,119
a moment this is perhaps why you see

3247
02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:37,599
so many companies including government

3248
02:04:42,470 --> 02:04:40,000
agencies like the fbi

3249
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:42,480
getting on the bandwagon and supporting

3250
02:04:48,470 --> 02:04:45,440
the the development of technologies that

3251
02:04:51,189 --> 02:04:48,480
allow you to do genetic sequencing in

3252
02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:51,199
the field and on the spot

3253
02:04:54,390 --> 02:04:52,560
in other words you don't have to wait

3254
02:04:56,950 --> 02:04:54,400
days to send off a genome to a

3255
02:04:59,910 --> 02:04:56,960
laboratory you'll know pretty much the

3256
02:05:02,149 --> 02:04:59,920
entire genome from a field test

3257
02:05:04,390 --> 02:05:02,159
well why would you develop a technology

3258
02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:04,400
like that well one reason might be if

3259
02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:06,400
you suspect that there are genetic

3260
02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:09,119
cousins among us the only way

3261
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:10,800
you're going to be able to tell the

3262
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:11,920
difference

3263
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:14,000
is to do a sequencing of their entire

3264
02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:16,880
genome and comparing it to the human and

3265
02:05:20,950 --> 02:05:19,040
i think that's i think that's definitely

3266
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:20,960
a possibility that you have to hold open

3267
02:05:24,709 --> 02:05:22,719
as to why these technologies are being

3268
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:24,719
developed and promoted so fast and

3269
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,199
particularly by government agencies

3270
02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:29,360
so yeah is am i alive to the crypto

3271
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:32,880
terrestrial possibility you betcha yeah

3272
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:34,560
here's a couple of more questions from

3273
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:36,800
chuckleberry finn love the name been a

3274
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:39,119
long time poster since 2007 at

3275
02:05:42,950 --> 02:05:41,280
forum.paracast.com

3276
02:05:44,070 --> 02:05:42,960
where you can ask questions of our

3277
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:44,080
guests

3278
02:05:48,070 --> 02:05:46,560
and he's wondering is there any sort of

3279
02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:48,080
infrastructure of this breakaway

3280
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:50,000
civilization in the world today that we

3281
02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:51,599
we actually can see

3282
02:05:56,390 --> 02:05:54,480
and uh annie adds or has berkshire

3283
02:05:59,189 --> 02:05:56,400
hathaway already purchased all the prime

3284
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:01,589
so is there any place you can go and

3285
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:03,599
possibly get a glimpse of this and and

3286
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:05,280
and please i i don't think you're going

3287
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:07,360
to say area 51 but if you're going to

3288
02:06:10,629 --> 02:06:08,719
don't

3289
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:10,639
i'm not going to say that i think i

3290
02:06:14,070 --> 02:06:12,320
think this would be a good answer for

3291
02:06:15,589 --> 02:06:14,080
walter to jump in here initially and

3292
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:15,599
then i'll i'll pick up from where he

3293
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:17,199
leaves it

3294
02:06:22,070 --> 02:06:18,880
well i would say

3295
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:22,080
look to your stories of um anything

3296
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:23,599
where the government

3297
02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:26,880
particularly the military has

3298
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:28,800
been doing anything underground that's

3299
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:32,400
what i've been diving into the last uh

3300
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:33,920
month or so

3301
02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:35,360
more deeply

3302
02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:36,320
in

3303
02:06:43,270 --> 02:06:40,719
because

3304
02:06:46,069 --> 02:06:43,280
if you look at that and if you look at

3305
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:46,079
the money trail which should be familiar

3306
02:06:49,990 --> 02:06:48,719
to joseph's readers and my more recent

3307
02:06:52,069 --> 02:06:50,000
readers

3308
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:52,079
you will also see

3309
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,719
evidence of things

3310
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:56,719
that have to do with

3311
02:07:01,910 --> 02:07:00,400
places here on the planet that

3312
02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:01,920
you know most people aren't going to

3313
02:07:06,790 --> 02:07:03,280
have access to

3314
02:07:09,109 --> 02:07:06,800
or can't gain access to i would say

3315
02:07:10,870 --> 02:07:09,119
look at the moon too you know

3316
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:10,880
you there's all sorts of stories about

3317
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:12,719
what's really going on in the moon and

3318
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:15,520
and i think there's something to that

3319
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:17,840
idea of you know what's really up there

3320
02:07:20,550 --> 02:07:18,960
who's really up there what are they

3321
02:07:24,149 --> 02:07:20,560
really doing

3322
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,159
um so yeah if if you if you look

3323
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:26,480
if you look in um

3324
02:07:31,589 --> 02:07:30,079
corners and in places that might seem

3325
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:31,599
mundane

3326
02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:33,520
yeah i think you're going to find clues

3327
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:35,199
now as far as

3328
02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:38,000
you know some physical landmark where

3329
02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:41,760
you can point to it um i i doubt that i

3330
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:43,360
i mean you're you're talking for the

3331
02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:45,840
most part a civilization a group of

3332
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:47,280
people whatever that have been around

3333
02:07:53,990 --> 02:07:50,320
for a very long time and they're they're

3334
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:54,000
well deeply embedded well hidden um but

3335
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:56,560
even you know any modern access you

3336
02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:58,560
might say um

3337
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:00,000
i just

3338
02:08:05,990 --> 02:08:02,639
again i go back to look at what the

3339
02:08:08,229 --> 02:08:06,000
restricted areas um are doing look where

3340
02:08:10,629 --> 02:08:08,239
they're at and that's your best

3341
02:08:12,229 --> 02:08:10,639
possibility i think

3342
02:08:15,669 --> 02:08:12,239
yeah and it

3343
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:15,679
you're constantly almost forced to look

3344
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:17,520
underground

3345
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:18,480
of course

3346
02:08:22,629 --> 02:08:20,960
we all know richard sautter's

3347
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,639
underground bases and tunnels what is

3348
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:24,400
the government trying to hide he combed

3349
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:25,199
through

3350
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:27,840
i think 40 years of appropriations bills

3351
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:30,079
to find funding for the

3352
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:32,320
about 130 facilities that we know are

3353
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,320
there and he couldn't find a penny and

3354
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:36,400
excellent research i might add yeah very

3355
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:37,199
good

3356
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:38,800
and i'm i'll be i'll be talking about

3357
02:08:43,030 --> 02:08:40,800
this in the new book um

3358
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:43,040
you know people ask you know who before

3359
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:44,800
richard dolan might specifically have

3360
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,560
been you know finding this stuff and i

3361
02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:48,480
would argue that sauter's work

3362
02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:49,760
is uh

3363
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:52,000
the the the one guy i can immediately

3364
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:53,440
point to that

3365
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:55,599
really he was he was coming across this

3366
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:57,599
stuff big time yeah

3367
02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,840
and i agree um here's an interesting

3368
02:09:03,589 --> 02:09:01,840
question again from chuckleberry finn

3369
02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:03,599
does the breakaway civilization have its

3370
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:05,520
own system of government its own laws

3371
02:09:08,310 --> 02:09:07,360
elected officials and the rest uh of

3372
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:08,320
course

3373
02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:11,119
that's kind of hard to answer but

3374
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:13,119
can anyone who is not a citizen of the

3375
02:09:17,589 --> 02:09:15,679
breakaway civilization marry into it if

3376
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:17,599
so haven't why haven't we seen any

3377
02:09:21,669 --> 02:09:20,239
paparazzi photos of scarlett johansson

3378
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:21,679
walking hand in hand with david

3379
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:25,360
rockefeller the queen of england

3380
02:09:28,550 --> 02:09:27,360
who wants to tackle that one

3381
02:09:29,830 --> 02:09:28,560
i think

3382
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:29,840
if you're talking in terms of

3383
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:32,159
civilization and particularly in the

3384
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:34,400
sense that that dolan first proposed the

3385
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:35,520
idea

3386
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:37,280
that the answer to that question has to

3387
02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:38,800
be yes because the idea of a

3388
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:41,280
civilization implies

3389
02:09:45,830 --> 02:09:43,599
certain cultural norms certain certain

3390
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:45,840
types of behavior it implies a certain

3391
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,079
kind of hierarchy within it

3392
02:09:53,189 --> 02:09:50,480
certainly if we're maintaining the idea

3393
02:09:55,430 --> 02:09:53,199
that this thing evolves from

3394
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:55,440
decades of black projects research it's

3395
02:09:58,870 --> 02:09:57,199
also going to have its own command

3396
02:10:00,990 --> 02:09:58,880
structure its own

3397
02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:01,000
its own way of handling things like

3398
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:02,880
compartmentalization and so on and so

3399
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:04,560
forth so my answer to that would be

3400
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:06,320
absolutely yes

3401
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:08,400
does that mean that it would have the

3402
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:11,760
ability to marry into it my suspicion is

3403
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:14,480
and has been all along that this

3404
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:16,639
civilization let's let's go back to the

3405
02:10:20,390 --> 02:10:18,800
nazis here for a moment if you look at

3406
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,400
what they were doing in their

3407
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:22,960
underground bunkers and laboratories and

3408
02:10:26,950 --> 02:10:25,199
factories and so on they essentially had

3409
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a two-tiered society

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3510
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listening to the paracast the gold

3511
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and even we've got walter bosley but

3512
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,159
joseph farrell was in the middle of a

3513
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:16,480
long explanation here and i didn't want

3514
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:18,079
to ignore

3515
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:20,000
walter but here we go

3516
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:22,000
well yeah if you look at the nazis

3517
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:23,199
you're dealing with essentially a

3518
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:25,440
two-tiered breakaway civilization you've

3519
02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:27,440
got the ss people that are running it

3520
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:29,199
you've got their technocrats they're

3521
02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:31,119
scientists and so on they're doing the

3522
02:15:36,229 --> 02:15:33,760
actual nuts and bolts research and so on

3523
02:15:38,950 --> 02:15:36,239
and then you've got all the slave labor

3524
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:38,960
that is actually building for them

3525
02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:41,520
and i strongly suspect that this

3526
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,760
breakaway group has a similar structure

3527
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:45,599
in other words there are the technocrats

3528
02:15:49,430 --> 02:15:47,679
the scientists the managers and so on of

3529
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:49,440
all these different projects

3530
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:51,440
you've got the military people providing

3531
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:53,920
security intelligence and so on

3532
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:56,239
and then you would probably have a vast

3533
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:58,239
amount of

3534
02:16:02,229 --> 02:16:00,239
let's call them worker bees that are

3535
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:02,239
assembling this stuff and

3536
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,159
you're going to bring in a few people

3537
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,840
and you're going to make it possible for

3538
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:07,760
them you know to marry and so on and so

3539
02:16:10,709 --> 02:16:09,280
forth but i think that will be strictly

3540
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,719
controlled in other words can someone

3541
02:16:14,870 --> 02:16:12,320
from outside

3542
02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:14,880
marry into this and be a part of it

3543
02:16:19,350 --> 02:16:17,119
chances are highly unlikely

3544
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:19,360
but could this happen within this group

3545
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:22,079
sure absolutely i i think that's i think

3546
02:16:27,669 --> 02:16:24,960
that's a given what comes to my mind too

3547
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,679
coming from my background in um you know

3548
02:16:32,150 --> 02:16:29,040
career and counterintelligence and

3549
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,160
counter espionage um take a look at how

3550
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:34,080
for example because this is the these

3551
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:36,080
are the people in the organizations i

3552
02:16:40,389 --> 02:16:38,080
worked for many years

3553
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:40,399
take for example how the

3554
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,160
you know the russian intelligence

3555
02:16:47,349 --> 02:16:44,719
services worked okay they would come

3556
02:16:49,750 --> 02:16:47,359
into you know for example the united

3557
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:49,760
states and they would establish um you

3558
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:51,120
know their little

3559
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:53,359
their little group within their you know

3560
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:55,519
their state department you know like all

3561
02:17:01,110 --> 02:16:58,240
nations do with their spies um you know

3562
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:01,120
or their front company you know usually

3563
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:03,679
some type of trade vague ambiguous trade

3564
02:17:07,750 --> 02:17:05,519
company thing and it's actually a group

3565
02:17:10,070 --> 02:17:07,760
of spies now um the way the russians did

3566
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:10,080
it the soviets the way the soviets did

3567
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,040
it in their junior staff quite frankly

3568
02:17:17,750 --> 02:17:16,000
they hired young females okay

3569
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:17,760
part of the duties of those young

3570
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:20,160
females were to be available

3571
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,120
to the

3572
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:23,359
the male operatives this is not theory

3573
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:25,679
this is this is fact i know some people

3574
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:26,880
aren't going to like even the mention of

3575
02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:28,000
that kind of thing well that's what the

3576
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:31,599
soviets did i believe me i know this um

3577
02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:32,479
anybody who worked in

3578
02:17:36,309 --> 02:17:34,319
counterintelligence knows this

3579
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,319
i would venture to say that

3580
02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:38,719
a breakaway outfit would do a very

3581
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:40,479
similar thing they would make sure that

3582
02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:42,240
they would have a good mix of male and

3583
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:45,439
female and they they would encourage the

3584
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:47,679
the you know within the group the inner

3585
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:48,399
group

3586
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:50,800
liaison and relationship and and that's

3587
02:17:54,230 --> 02:17:52,000
how they do it because think about it

3588
02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:54,240
all these people are vetted already um

3589
02:17:59,349 --> 02:17:57,599
security wise so you know that's the way

3590
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:59,359
i see that they would there's a show on

3591
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:01,280
television called the americans which

3592
02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:03,599
deals exactly with that so there you go

3593
02:18:07,910 --> 02:18:05,599
there you go that was that kind of

3594
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:07,920
scenario was what part of you know my

3595
02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:09,840
life was about for the years that i

3596
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:11,599
worked you know in the end of the the

3597
02:18:14,870 --> 02:18:13,439
last years of the cold war for the fbi

3598
02:18:17,429 --> 02:18:14,880
and such you know yeah that kind of

3599
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:17,439
thing is a reality and we do it too yeah

3600
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:19,040
well here's here's a question i'm not

3601
02:18:23,589 --> 02:18:21,200
sure who it's it's being asked of so

3602
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:23,599
we'll have you both answer it this comes

3603
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:25,760
from sian flosser who's been again a

3604
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:28,080
long time poster at uh the question bank

3605
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:30,639
at forum.paracast.com

3606
02:18:34,950 --> 02:18:32,880
have either of you been threatened or

3607
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:34,960
warned not to continue researching

3608
02:18:41,830 --> 02:18:37,679
breakaway civilizations nazi technology

3609
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:41,840
or ancient advanced civilizations

3610
02:19:37,190 --> 02:18:42,800
i

3611
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:37,200
strange stuff happen to me

3612
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:39,040
ever since i began to write these types

3613
02:19:42,389 --> 02:19:40,719
of books all the way back with with the

3614
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:42,399
giza death star

3615
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:44,880
i have never been specifically warned

3616
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:48,000
off or threatened in any sort of verbal

3617
02:19:50,950 --> 02:19:48,960
way

3618
02:19:52,710 --> 02:19:50,960
there was an incident when i was living

3619
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:52,720
in south dakota

3620
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:54,000
where

3621
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:55,359
muggings

3622
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:57,120
were happening locally you know in

3623
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:00,399
spearfish south dakota of all places and

3624
02:20:05,590 --> 02:20:03,280
these were happening to to people that

3625
02:20:08,469 --> 02:20:05,600
were acquaintances of mine

3626
02:20:10,389 --> 02:20:08,479
and they kept getting closer to me

3627
02:20:12,070 --> 02:20:10,399
and they weren't being reported in any

3628
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,080
of the local media

3629
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:15,120
you know i i was i was looking at the

3630
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:17,760
developing pattern and i mentioned this

3631
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:19,680
to a couple of friends of mine and they

3632
02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:22,000
said you need to get out of there

3633
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:24,560
and so i i actually moved because of

3634
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:26,080
these events

3635
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:27,520
because they were getting closer to me

3636
02:20:33,030 --> 02:20:30,800
but in terms of an actual warning or

3637
02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:33,040
anything like that no

3638
02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:34,800
yeah nothing nothing like that has ever

3639
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:37,120
happened well i should probably add too

3640
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:37,920
that

3641
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:39,520
you know people talk about the the men

3642
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:42,160
in black i was uh visited by a man in

3643
02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:44,880
beige

3644
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:46,640
that was his summer wear

3645
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,920
i was gonna say

3646
02:20:51,830 --> 02:20:49,680
well forget it

3647
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:51,840
well i was gonna say that you know out

3648
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:54,000
of all the years that i spent

3649
02:20:58,469 --> 02:20:56,160
digging into uh you know

3650
02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:58,479
undocumented uh unexplained military

3651
02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:59,600
activity

3652
02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:01,439
the possible uh

3653
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,680
flying around of exotic uh human

3654
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:05,280
technology that sort of thing i never

3655
02:21:08,309 --> 02:21:06,880
had any

3656
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:08,319
uh

3657
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:14,720
except for one one event but

3658
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,720
uh this guy showed up at my house when i

3659
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:19,120
was in in the midst of uh

3660
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:21,520
uh working with a whistleblower on an

3661
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:23,600
underground facility that was supposedly

3662
02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:26,720
uh in the region and uh this guy he came

3663
02:21:29,830 --> 02:21:28,640
right out and said you know

3664
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,840
don't you think there's some things that

3665
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,439
you're starting to get into that most

3666
02:21:35,270 --> 02:21:33,600
people just don't have a need to know

3667
02:21:38,469 --> 02:21:35,280
maybe you should start questioning your

3668
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:40,469
and i said well if you'd shown up with a

3669
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:42,160
sampson i filled with used hundred

3670
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:44,399
dollar bills or given my band a major

3671
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:46,479
record deal or a major publishing deal

3672
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:47,920
for my writing

3673
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:50,160
then maybe uh yeah i'd you know i'd have

3674
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:51,680
something to kind of

3675
02:21:57,270 --> 02:21:54,640
put my attention on but uh

3676
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:57,280
he was doing nlp power moves and stuff

3677
02:22:03,030 --> 02:21:58,240
it was

3678
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:03,040
he was he was a director in the

3679
02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:04,880
uh k street organization called the

3680
02:22:09,670 --> 02:22:07,760
institute for social architecture

3681
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:09,680
which

3682
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:11,200
i found very interesting it was the only

3683
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:12,479
person out of the hundreds that drapes

3684
02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:14,319
through the house over a eight year

3685
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:16,240
period that my girlfriend went ballistic

3686
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:21,429
you know at the institute for social

3687
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:23,520
architecture is connected to don't you

3688
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:24,319
no

3689
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:26,640
mk ultra

3690
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:28,880
well i it wouldn't surprise me at all i

3691
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:30,720
even i still have his business card he

3692
02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:33,200
actually gave me a card and uh you know

3693
02:22:36,950 --> 02:22:35,200
when he was doing the nlp moves on me i

3694
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:36,960
instantly recognized what he was doing

3695
02:22:40,389 --> 02:22:37,680
and

3696
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:40,399
you know i kind of got a little

3697
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:42,160
a little miffed about it but i

3698
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:44,160
immediately dropped my research into the

3699
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:51,030
yeah funny thing that right yeah it's

3700
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:52,640
interesting how it worked out all of a

3701
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:54,640
sudden uh some other cases occurred that

3702
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:56,560
took my attention uh to other other

3703
02:23:01,190 --> 02:22:59,600
places but uh he was a man in days you

3704
02:23:02,710 --> 02:23:01,200
don't hear about the men in bays you

3705
02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:02,720
hear about the men in black but not the

3706
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:06,560
guys in beige that's right um it it well

3707
02:23:09,030 --> 02:23:07,520
you know

3708
02:23:11,429 --> 02:23:09,040
of course after labor day they go back

3709
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:11,439
to the black suits but um

3710
02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:14,080
that's a fashion joke uh

3711
02:23:16,950 --> 02:23:15,040
um

3712
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:16,960
the interesting

3713
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:19,600
i totally forgot what i was going to say

3714
02:23:24,469 --> 02:23:22,000
go ahead guys i'm sorry i did i forgot

3715
02:23:25,429 --> 02:23:24,479
what i was going to say

3716
02:23:28,870 --> 02:23:25,439
go ahead

3717
02:23:30,710 --> 02:23:28,880
that was a real show stopper yeah i know

3718
02:23:33,110 --> 02:23:30,720
uh gene you might have to edit that part

3719
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,120
out it was a it was a good point that

3720
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,200
chris brought up about something that uh

3721
02:23:40,389 --> 02:23:38,319
oh yes now i remember now i remember um

3722
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:40,399
you know when you talk about cases and

3723
02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:42,000
joseph and i have talked about this you

3724
02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:43,600
know and and greg bishop and i have

3725
02:23:47,190 --> 02:23:44,720
talked about this when you talk about

3726
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:47,200
people like bring up uh

3727
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:49,680
danny castellero and and you know others

3728
02:23:54,389 --> 02:23:53,040
who have been you know um or more

3729
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:54,399
dr jessup

3730
02:23:58,550 --> 02:23:55,920
and stuff and

3731
02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:58,560
you know cassilaro to my knowledge he

3732
02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:01,280
was warned you know and

3733
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:02,560
they don't just

3734
02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:07,200
strike you they do give you a warning

3735
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:09,040
like chris kind of you know got the

3736
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:11,200
subtle warning and and they'll warn you

3737
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,720
more than once they'll say hey you're

3738
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:14,479
getting too close to something you might

3739
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,319
not want to do that hey you might want

3740
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:19,359
to back off or hey knock it off i'll

3741
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tell you what we're getting too close to

3742
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the commercials

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walter bosley joseph farrell gene and

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3855
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3856
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this is sight clark author of the ufo

3857
02:29:00,180 --> 02:28:57,760
encyclopedia in other books you're

3858
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:00,190
listening to the peercast

3859
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:14,630
that's angry chris we have grumpy chris

3860
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:17,200
we have all sorts of versions of chris

3861
02:29:21,590 --> 02:29:18,800
we have pregnant chris because he

3862
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,600
doesn't like the caricature that rpg did

3863
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:23,600
for him and we're going to slim him down

3864
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,600
we're going to give him ultra slim fast

3865
02:29:29,750 --> 02:29:27,680
at least the picture

3866
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:29,760
we have one more segment folks let's

3867
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:31,840
move really fast here because running

3868
02:29:35,750 --> 02:29:33,760
out of time anyone want to finish the

3869
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:35,760
answer and let's move on basically what

3870
02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:38,160
i was getting to was that

3871
02:29:42,309 --> 02:29:40,000
a lot of people they don't understand

3872
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:42,319
you know like when when chris gets what

3873
02:29:45,190 --> 02:29:43,920
i take that as kind of a warning or

3874
02:29:47,270 --> 02:29:45,200
whatever if i got something like that of

3875
02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:47,280
joseph we're smart enough

3876
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:49,200
to not end up

3877
02:29:53,349 --> 02:29:51,200
like these guys who they find dead and

3878
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:53,359
you know suicided in a bathtub you know

3879
02:29:56,950 --> 02:29:55,439
if somebody comes to me and tells me it

3880
02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:56,960
communicates to me

3881
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:59,120
you're in danger by going down this road

3882
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:01,120
i ain't going down that road anymore you

3883
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:03,120
live to fight another day on another

3884
02:30:05,670 --> 02:30:04,560
battlefield well

3885
02:30:06,790 --> 02:30:05,680
having the

3886
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:06,800
rhetorical

3887
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:08,319
question about you know don't you think

3888
02:30:11,510 --> 02:30:10,399
you should question your motivations and

3889
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:11,520
don't you think there's some things that

3890
02:30:15,830 --> 02:30:13,680
people just don't have a need to know i

3891
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:15,840
i agree with them yeah some there are

3892
02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:17,120
some things that people don't have a

3893
02:30:20,230 --> 02:30:18,720
need to know they don't really have to

3894
02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:20,240
do with

3895
02:30:23,110 --> 02:30:21,760
anything

3896
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:23,120
that

3897
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:25,120
is going to do anything but compromise

3898
02:30:29,670 --> 02:30:27,840
uh existing projects that that really

3899
02:30:31,429 --> 02:30:29,680
sure there's that you know if you want

3900
02:30:34,870 --> 02:30:31,439
to dig into that it's it's at your own

3901
02:30:36,790 --> 02:30:34,880
peril i mean there was no explicit overt

3902
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:36,800
warning there but i definitely picked up

3903
02:30:41,190 --> 02:30:39,280
on the hint and especially when the nlp

3904
02:30:42,790 --> 02:30:41,200
stuff was going on i knew i was not

3905
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:42,800
dealing with just some

3906
02:30:46,950 --> 02:30:44,800
casual reader who wanted to pick my

3907
02:30:49,349 --> 02:30:46,960
brain this guy was there for a reason i

3908
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:49,359
just kind of took the subtle advice i

3909
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:51,280
think the events kind of

3910
02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:53,280
happened and and uh

3911
02:30:56,550 --> 02:30:55,200
my whistleblower my militia group member

3912
02:30:58,870 --> 02:30:56,560
disappeared

3913
02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:58,880
was one of the things that happened and

3914
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:01,280
i didn't want to join him in whatever

3915
02:31:08,150 --> 02:31:05,910
well there you go and that and that's my

3916
02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:08,160
point you're savvy enough you didn't

3917
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:10,319
need the overt you know rocco and

3918
02:31:13,990 --> 02:31:11,760
knuckles coming out to pay you a visit

3919
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,000
at midnight you know um you're smart

3920
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:16,080
enough to pick up on the the subtleties

3921
02:31:19,190 --> 02:31:17,439
of it and you you don't want to get

3922
02:31:21,990 --> 02:31:19,200
anywhere near when rocco and knuckles

3923
02:31:23,830 --> 02:31:22,000
show up so you'll you'll gladly take the

3924
02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:23,840
insinuation from the beige suit guy

3925
02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:25,280
before you have to be visited by the

3926
02:31:29,670 --> 02:31:26,880
black suit guy that's

3927
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:29,680
exactly but right now don't the

3928
02:31:35,830 --> 02:31:33,280
rocco and knuckles personages come forth

3929
02:31:37,750 --> 02:31:35,840
with oriental faces

3930
02:31:39,349 --> 02:31:37,760
you mean in the historical stories about

3931
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:39,359
the men in black or

3932
02:31:46,389 --> 02:31:42,640
i mean right now i don't think it's all

3933
02:31:48,630 --> 02:31:46,399
anglo-saxons anymore or italians anymore

3934
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:48,640
right there have been cases yeah gene

3935
02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:50,399
where they've been described as being

3936
02:31:55,270 --> 02:31:54,240
sworthy orientals yeah sure yeah that

3937
02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:55,280
goes back

3938
02:31:59,830 --> 02:31:57,200
a long time in the history of these kind

3939
02:32:01,910 --> 02:31:59,840
of cases too so you know that's

3940
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:01,920
who are they see now you're kind of

3941
02:32:07,990 --> 02:32:04,560
getting into a strange

3942
02:32:11,030 --> 02:32:08,000
gray barker john keel jacques valet kind

3943
02:32:13,510 --> 02:32:11,040
of place when you get into that let's

3944
02:32:15,429 --> 02:32:13,520
just mention here nick redfearn has just

3945
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:15,439
come out with a book on the women in

3946
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:19,120
black ah yes i'm anxious to get to that

3947
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:21,520
one because that that one's intriguing

3948
02:32:24,389 --> 02:32:22,960
well here let's let's hit another

3949
02:32:27,349 --> 02:32:24,399
question real quick before we run out of

3950
02:32:29,030 --> 02:32:27,359
time again this is from cyan flosser and

3951
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:29,040
this is a good question because i've

3952
02:32:33,110 --> 02:32:30,720
always wondered about how the uh the

3953
02:32:35,110 --> 02:32:33,120
lunar module blasted off the moon

3954
02:32:37,270 --> 02:32:35,120
do you think unacknowledged technology

3955
02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:37,280
used in acknowledged aircraft could be

3956
02:32:41,510 --> 02:32:39,200
fed have been fed to the aviation

3957
02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:41,520
contractors by let's say a breakaway

3958
02:32:47,830 --> 02:32:44,960
civilization for example the b-2 bombers

3959
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:47,840
i had the word alleged use of electro

3960
02:32:51,750 --> 02:32:49,920
gravitics or whatever technology

3961
02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:51,760
actually lifted the apollo program lunar

3962
02:32:56,950 --> 02:32:55,359
modules off the moon oh yeah yes and i

3963
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:56,960
think joseph can answer that in much

3964
02:33:00,309 --> 02:32:58,240
better detail

3965
02:33:02,710 --> 02:33:00,319
yeah i've always suspected that

3966
02:33:04,950 --> 02:33:02,720
something like this is going on i i

3967
02:33:06,790 --> 02:33:04,960
think what's happening in terms of of

3968
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:06,800
the public technologies you're seeing a

3969
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:07,920
slow

3970
02:33:12,070 --> 02:33:10,800
deliberate and planned release of some

3971
02:33:14,230 --> 02:33:12,080
of these things

3972
02:33:15,349 --> 02:33:14,240
most recently i think a couple years ago

3973
02:33:17,429 --> 02:33:15,359
lockheed

3974
02:33:19,030 --> 02:33:17,439
released pictures of its small little

3975
02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:19,040
fusion reactor which interestingly

3976
02:33:25,349 --> 02:33:22,560
enough looks amazingly like a patent of

3977
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:25,359
philo farnsworth from the 1960s

3978
02:33:29,990 --> 02:33:27,760
for precisely such a small fusion

3979
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:30,000
reactor i think these things are being

3980
02:33:33,510 --> 02:33:31,359
deliberately leaked so it doesn't

3981
02:33:35,590 --> 02:33:33,520
surprise me it wouldn't surprise me

3982
02:33:37,190 --> 02:33:35,600
if you'd have technologies like that

3983
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:37,200
being grafted on to otherwise

3984
02:33:41,590 --> 02:33:40,000
conventional aircraft and seated

3985
02:33:43,990 --> 02:33:41,600
into the industry

3986
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:44,000
as far as apollo goes you know i argued

3987
02:33:47,270 --> 02:33:45,760
all the way back an ss brotherhood of

3988
02:33:50,070 --> 02:33:47,280
the bell that

3989
02:33:51,349 --> 02:33:50,080
to my mind there probably was some sort

3990
02:33:54,790 --> 02:33:51,359
of of

3991
02:33:57,030 --> 02:33:54,800
exotic technology that was available

3992
02:34:00,070 --> 02:33:57,040
made available for the learner excursion

3993
02:34:01,910 --> 02:34:00,080
module to get it off the moon absolutely

3994
02:34:04,230 --> 02:34:01,920
having said that here's a question from

3995
02:34:06,950 --> 02:34:04,240
blowfish who's one of our real steady

3996
02:34:08,550 --> 02:34:06,960
posters at forum.bearcast.com

3997
02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:08,560
what are your thoughts of

3998
02:34:13,270 --> 02:34:10,560
the late philip corso

3999
02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:13,280
and his book on roswell and you know his

4000
02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:15,840
allegations that uh you know advances in

4001
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:18,240
technology were salted into uh into the

4002
02:34:21,990 --> 02:34:21,200
public sector corso i have misgivings

4003
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:22,000
about

4004
02:34:26,389 --> 02:34:24,640
corso i've always suspected

4005
02:34:28,550 --> 02:34:26,399
is following a kind of a double agenda

4006
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:28,560
if he looks at his claims of what has

4007
02:34:33,190 --> 02:34:30,640
been salted into

4008
02:34:34,309 --> 02:34:33,200
industry the things that he's talking

4009
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:34,319
about

4010
02:34:37,990 --> 02:34:36,000
are not really

4011
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:38,000
anything that would have necessarily an

4012
02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:39,600
e.t provenance

4013
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:41,520
i spent a lot of time in roswell in iraq

4014
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:43,040
dealing with his four claims about

4015
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:44,399
lasers

4016
02:34:49,590 --> 02:34:46,720
about semiconductor chips and so on and

4017
02:34:51,590 --> 02:34:49,600
so forth and drawing nasty parallels

4018
02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:51,600
but i do think there is an element of

4019
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:53,520
truth to what corso is saying and the

4020
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:55,600
most obvious thing is if you read his

4021
02:35:00,870 --> 02:34:58,399
book carefully when he talks about e.t

4022
02:35:03,750 --> 02:35:00,880
oftentimes in the very same context in a

4023
02:35:06,469 --> 02:35:03,760
few cases in the very next sentence

4024
02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:06,479
he will be pointing the finger at the

4025
02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:07,760
nazis

4026
02:35:13,750 --> 02:35:10,800
so in other words i think corso is is

4027
02:35:15,590 --> 02:35:13,760
kind of a bit of a clever disinformation

4028
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:15,600
agent he's giving you just enough truth

4029
02:35:19,590 --> 02:35:17,680
and he's giving you just enough

4030
02:35:22,070 --> 02:35:19,600
information so if you really go out and

4031
02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:22,080
want to research his book you'll see

4032
02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:24,560
that the nazi clues he's he's giving you

4033
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:26,960
actually do pan out let me ask you

4034
02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:28,560
quickly we only have a minute or two

4035
02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:30,880
left drop me a couple of bones here what

4036
02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:34,560
kind of nazi clues all right he mentions

4037
02:35:39,190 --> 02:35:36,800
as one of the technologies

4038
02:35:40,950 --> 02:35:39,200
that we got from a crashed and recovered

4039
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:40,960
craft at roswell

4040
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:43,600
and therefore e.t in his explanation in

4041
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:46,640
the book is the semiconductor chip the

4042
02:35:51,670 --> 02:35:49,040
idea of the transistor that's

4043
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:51,680
preposterous i mean shockley in in

4044
02:35:56,550 --> 02:35:53,680
bell labs i mean

4045
02:35:59,349 --> 02:35:56,560
there's a an eminent evidence chain

4046
02:36:02,070 --> 02:35:59,359
there is an imminent evidence chain as

4047
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:02,080
far as it goes

4048
02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:04,960
but he points out that the the

4049
02:36:11,670 --> 02:36:08,240
the chain of reasoning of science behind

4050
02:36:14,630 --> 02:36:11,680
the rise of transistors isn't so clear

4051
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:14,640
now i point out in roswell and the reich

4052
02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:17,680
a little klystron tube that was invented

4053
02:36:23,590 --> 02:36:21,760
by the german firm taylofunken in 1940

4054
02:36:25,990 --> 02:36:23,600
and it's about as big as the last

4055
02:36:28,550 --> 02:36:26,000
knuckle on your little finger all right

4056
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:28,560
the allied equivalent of this vacuum

4057
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:31,120
tube at the end of the war was 10 times

4058
02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:32,800
bigger so in other words the germans

4059
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:34,640
were miniaturizing things at an

4060
02:36:39,429 --> 02:36:36,880
extraordinary rate now let's deal with

4061
02:36:42,790 --> 02:36:39,439
semiconductors and transistors

4062
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:42,800
the germans had a semiconductor chip

4063
02:36:47,590 --> 02:36:45,040
industry very primitive they were

4064
02:36:49,590 --> 02:36:47,600
producing these things in the 1940s so

4065
02:36:51,990 --> 02:36:49,600
there's the part of the transistor in

4066
02:36:53,750 --> 02:36:52,000
the transistor development chain

4067
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:53,760
that is missing from your standard

4068
02:36:57,590 --> 02:36:55,600
history so in other words there's

4069
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:57,600
another nazi connection you need to look

4070
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,600
at when you look at torso's claims for

4071
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:01,359
exotic technologies

4072
02:37:06,150 --> 02:37:03,200
you know we agree that they'll use

4073
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:06,160
things like ufos you know to to cover

4074
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:07,840
for stuff that they've done and they'll

4075
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:11,040
use various um dialogues to cover for

4076
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:13,760
for things you know the the the well

4077
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:15,280
pedigreed history chris that you

4078
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:18,160
mentioned with the transistors um you

4079
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:19,280
have to remember

4080
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:21,040
that might have been part of the legend

4081
02:37:24,550 --> 02:37:22,720
we were told that oh that's how it

4082
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:24,560
developed and it didn't start before

4083
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:27,280
then when actually it did have its roots

4084
02:37:30,950 --> 02:37:28,960
that's my point back yeah that's my

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point joseph farrell can you tell our

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listeners where we can find more of your

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www.gizadeathstar.com i've got a web

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store there with all my books and blogs

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and stuff

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walter would read on your stuff you can

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find me at amazon.com at my authors page

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just put my name in and you can find me

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read all these books

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that's an order you can also find us on

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joseph farrell

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walter bosley thank you both for joining

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us on the powercast thanks for having me

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back gene

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